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🔗Neil Haverstick <STICK@...>

9/30/2001 10:17:47 AM

On the subject of understanding...there was another tragedy recently,
when a man in Switzerland went wacko, and killed 15 people (wounding 14
as well); then, he killed himself.. Actually, it's not much different
than the WTC disaster, except the scale was smaller...out of nowhere, a
deranged person murders innocent people. So, what do the Swiss
authorities do now? Seek revenge from...who? Is there someone,
somewhere, they can blame? Did someone "train" this man to end his life
the way he did? Was it his family? Was childhood trauma responsible?
Could someone have seen this coming, and stopped it in advance? Is our
stressful, capitalistic culture responsible? And, if it is, who should
be punished? Why in the world would someone do something like this,
anyway? And, it's getting fairly common in the last few years, all over
the globe...bombs in synagogues, killers in schools, lots of
"murder/suicides," over failed relationships, or family issues. It's
getting rather commonplace, unfortunately, and that's some sad shit.
Personally, I think the time is overdue for some serious attempts at
trying to understand what's going on here. I feel like there's terror
all around, and it could happen anywhere, at any time, on a small scale,
or, as in Rwanda recently, on a huge scale (perhaps a million dead, many
hacked to death by machetes; and, I don't recall much of that episode on
the front pages of our newspapers). The WTC was incredible, because we
could watch it unfolding live, before our eyes, in the media...but, this
sort of lunacy is really everywhere in the world right now, and we need
to figure out what's going on. Understanding the root causes of a
situation is a superb first step in learning how to ensure it will not
happen again. And, that often takes introspection, some soul searching,
and some wisdom in using what one has learned; which is never easy,
because it involves taking responsibility for past mistakes, and that
isn't any fun. I wouldn't necessarily expect a 4 year old to understand
why terrorism, on any level, exists...but, I do expect adults,
especially those whose fingers are close to the nuclear buttons, to try
to exercise intelligence and restraint, before setting us on a course
that could, quite realistically, mean the end of life on this planet.
And, that's exactly where we are today...Hstick

🔗Rosati <dante.interport@...>

9/30/2001 11:11:12 AM

Neil-

I understand your dismay, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who shares that
feeling with you. If you think about history, though, terror and mayhem are
pretty much the norm, on both large and small scales. Its just a sad fact
that this planet is populated by alot of "low frequency" souls caught in
suffering, and taking it out on themselves and others. Nowadays through the
wonders of the electronic media, this terror and mayhem is collected
globally and brought into our consciousnesses in real time, as you
mentioned, so perhaps it seems like there is more of it, but it may be just
that we are more aware of the unfortunate status quo. Think about anytime
before the last century, and you can see that unless the mayhem was
happening to you personally, you probably were not even aware of it, unless
you heard vague stories about it long after it occured. Maybe its a good
thing to harangue us with the reality of whats happening everywhere so that
it becomes more difficult to bury our heads in the sand. I know I'm spending
even more hours playing music, as it certainly helps take my mind off of
what passes for "reality". Maybe I'm just burying my head in the sand, but
it's hard to deal with this shit without losing your mind. Sometimes I think
that if some idiots nuke NYC at this point I'll just say "whatever, dudes,
I'm >outtahere<!" and leave this fucked up planet behind.

Dante

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Neil Haverstick [mailto:STICK@...]
> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 1:18 PM
> To: metatuning@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [metatuning] understanding
>
>
> On the subject of understanding...there was another tragedy recently,
> when a man in Switzerland went wacko, and killed 15 people (wounding 14
> as well); then, he killed himself.. Actually, it's not much different
> than the WTC disaster, except the scale was smaller...out of nowhere, a
> deranged person murders innocent people. So, what do the Swiss
> authorities do now? Seek revenge from...who? Is there someone,
> somewhere, they can blame? Did someone "train" this man to end his life
> the way he did? Was it his family? Was childhood trauma responsible?
> Could someone have seen this coming, and stopped it in advance? Is our
> stressful, capitalistic culture responsible? And, if it is, who should
> be punished? Why in the world would someone do something like this,
> anyway? And, it's getting fairly common in the last few years, all over
> the globe...bombs in synagogues, killers in schools, lots of
> "murder/suicides," over failed relationships, or family issues. It's
> getting rather commonplace, unfortunately, and that's some sad shit.
> Personally, I think the time is overdue for some serious attempts at
> trying to understand what's going on here. I feel like there's terror
> all around, and it could happen anywhere, at any time, on a small scale,
> or, as in Rwanda recently, on a huge scale (perhaps a million dead, many
> hacked to death by machetes; and, I don't recall much of that episode on
> the front pages of our newspapers). The WTC was incredible, because we
> could watch it unfolding live, before our eyes, in the media...but, this
> sort of lunacy is really everywhere in the world right now, and we need
> to figure out what's going on. Understanding the root causes of a
> situation is a superb first step in learning how to ensure it will not
> happen again. And, that often takes introspection, some soul searching,
> and some wisdom in using what one has learned; which is never easy,
> because it involves taking responsibility for past mistakes, and that
> isn't any fun. I wouldn't necessarily expect a 4 year old to understand
> why terrorism, on any level, exists...but, I do expect adults,
> especially those whose fingers are close to the nuclear buttons, to try
> to exercise intelligence and restraint, before setting us on a course
> that could, quite realistically, mean the end of life on this planet.
> And, that's exactly where we are today...Hstick
>
>
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