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born again==fundamentalist (was: the fundamentals)

🔗X. J. Scott <xjscott@...>

9/28/2001 8:42:09 AM

[me:]
>> What sort of a fundamentalist do you see the
>> President as?

[david:]
> No. It's no secret the Bush v.2 is born again.
> Public record.

Oh. I did not realize that:

'born again' == 'fundamentalist'

I did realize that President Bush and his
wife are Methodists. And I did have some
scuffles with some Methodists in high school.
Are they a radical and/or dangerous cult
as far as you know? (I am assuming that
'fundamentalist' is supposed to be a bad
thing and I am trying to figure out in what
way they are bad so I can know what to look
out for.)

[me:]
>> "imaculate crusade" -- that's got to be a joke,
>> right... right?

[david:]
> I'm not sure I got it totally right, but the term crusade was
> used.

Oh OK. I remember that in one speech he used the
c word but he didn't seem to use it in any religious
sense. The word is after all used nowadays mainly in a
secular sense. In any case, I do seem to remember
that some people were offended and the President
hasn't used the term since and it was explained
that he didn't mean it in a religious sense.

But you think he *did* mean it in a religious sense.
Are you saying that this wor is just a ruse to
convert, dominate, and/or attack Muslims? So when
he was visiting the Mosque and has made all the
moves of friendship towards the Muslim community,
do you see these things as hostile or deceptive
ruses?

- Jeff

🔗David Beardsley <db@...>

9/28/2001 6:48:06 PM

----- Original Message -----
From: X. J. Scott <xjscott@...>

> [me:]
> >> What sort of a fundamentalist do you see the
> >> President as?
>
> [david:]
> > No. It's no secret the Bush v.2 is born again.
> > Public record.
>
> Oh. I did not realize that:
>
> 'born again' == 'fundamentalist'
>
> I did realize that President Bush and his
> wife are Methodists. And I did have some
> scuffles with some Methodists in high school.
> Are they a radical and/or dangerous cult
> as far as you know? (I am assuming that
> 'fundamentalist' is supposed to be a bad
> thing and I am trying to figure out in what
> way they are bad so I can know what to look
> out for.)

I don't know how deeply born again Bush v.2
is, but he did bring in John Ashcroft.

> [me:]
> >> "imaculate crusade" -- that's got to be a joke,
> >> right... right?
>
> [david:]
> > I'm not sure I got it totally right, but the term crusade was
> > used.
>
> Oh OK. I remember that in one speech he used the
> c word but he didn't seem to use it in any religious
> sense.

The US goverment had to change the name of their
campain because Muslems found it offensive.

> The word is after all used nowadays mainly in a
> secular sense. In any case, I do seem to remember
> that some people were offended and the President
> hasn't used the term since and it was explained
> that he didn't mean it in a religious sense.
>
> But you think he *did* mean it in a religious sense.
> Are you saying that this wor is just a ruse to
> convert, dominate, and/or attack Muslims? So when
> he was visiting the Mosque and has made all the
> moves of friendship towards the Muslim community,
> do you see these things as hostile or deceptive
> ruses?

It was overly hostile saber rattling.

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