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$12 to
Kraig Grady
2645 Crestmoore Pl.
L. A. CA. 90065 .

I have been unemployed now for a month so it would come in handy

David Beardsley wrote:

> That's a good one Kraig. I don't have as much time to surf
> for news as I used to. Too dam busy with the day job.
>
> Which reminds me: can I still buy a copy of your CD
> direct from you?
>
> * David Beardsley
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🔗kraig grady <kraiggrady@...>

by 1975 i was convinced the whole thing couldn't possibly last much longer, but i sure hope Joe is right, even if we have to give a little shove to get it started ;)

Jon Szanto wrote:

> --- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, <monz@a...> wrote:
> > i think it's only a matter of time before the whole
> > thing comes crashing down. maybe i'm just hopeful,
> > but i do think that most people are smart enough
> > to see thru all this bullshit.
>
> I've always considered myself a hopeful person as well, and yet it appears most people aren't even smart enough to stop filling their gullets at McDonald's until they are a populace of obese couch potatos. I don't count on them being smart enough to think about things like this - I guess that is why I've become more active politically lately: things weren't going too well on 'hope' alone!
>
> Persevere,
> Jon
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🔗monz@...

well, i figure that at least finally some day
all these assholes will die, and there are lots of
very cool younger people around who may be in a
position to take control.

i wish i didn't have to think that way, but it's
the only way of thinking that *gives* me hope.
but to see how quickly this administration undid
what had been gained after so much struggle is
really saddening.

-monz

> -----Original Message-----
> From: kraig grady [mailto:kraiggrady@...]
> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 12:31 AM
> To: metatuning@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [metatuning] Re: The killing of Hussein's sons: the
> Nuremberg precedent and the criminalization of the US ruling elite
>
>
> by 1975 i was convinced the whole thing couldn't possibly
> last much longer, but i sure hope Joe is right, even if we
> have to give a little shove to get it started ;)
>
> Jon Szanto wrote:
>
> > --- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, <monz@a...> wrote:
> > > i think it's only a matter of time before the whole
> > > thing comes crashing down. maybe i'm just hopeful,
> > > but i do think that most people are smart enough
> > > to see thru all this bullshit.
> >
> > I've always considered myself a hopeful person as well, and
> yet it appears most people aren't even smart enough to stop
> filling their gullets at McDonald's until they are a populace
> of obese couch potatos. I don't count on them being smart
> enough to think about things like this - I guess that is why
> I've become more active politically lately: things weren't
> going too well on 'hope' alone!
> >
> > Persevere,
> > Jon

-monz

🔗Carl Lumma <clumma@...>

🔗monz@...

hi Carl,

> From: Carl Lumma [mailto:clumma@...]
> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 3:18 AM
> To: metatuning@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [metatuning] Re: The killing of Hussein's sons: the Nuremberg
> precedent and the criminalization of the US ruling elite
>
>
> > well, i figure that at least finally some day
> > all these assholes will die, and there are lots of
> > very cool younger people around who may be in a
> > position to take control.
>
> I suspect it isn't people, but ideas that you hate.

yeah, you're probably right about that. in general,
as a compassionate and pacificistic person, it's
difficult for me to actually *hate* a person.
but ideas, yes, i have loathing for lots of them.

> Ideas which quite reliably spread to offspring,
> unfortunatly. Bush et al enjoy tremendous political
> power at the moment, and plenty of it is from the
> under-30 crowd, which is too young to have supported
> say, Vietnam.

you make a very good point there.

> Ready yourself for the next term. Maybe two or three
> more, the way he's going. !8(|

yeah, that's what i see for America's future too,
unfortunately.

in my younger days this situation would have prompted
me to leave. i've been ready to live outside America
for a long time, but just never did it. now i'm
old enough that i'd prefer to try and amass some kind
of financial security before venturing off into a
foreign land. ... but if things keep going the way
they have for the last 3 years, my patience with it
will wear thinner and thinner, and off i go.

... anyone in France or Italy willing to sponsor my work?
if so, i'm yours for the taking.

;-)

-monz

🔗Pete McRae <peteysan@...>

Monz!

I've been thinking seriously about Bolivia.

I've heard that the higher mountain areas will expand your chest cavity, and that would make my gut look smaller. A friend said, too, that when you come down from there, you have tremendous stamina! Hoo!

I read in the encyclopedia that they have the strongest laws preserving the rights of their indigenous people, the Aymara people and the Qechua language...

I WISH I knew where to go, these guys are making me REALLY uncomfortable...and I'm not anywhere near &^%$#$@! Baghdad! Ow!

Pete

monz@... wrote:
hi Carl,

yeah, you're probably right about that. in general,
as a compassionate and pacificistic person, it's
difficult for me to actually *hate* a person.
but ideas, yes, i have loathing for lots of them.

you make a very good point there.

> Ready yourself for the next term. Maybe two or three
> more, the way he's going. !8(|

yeah, that's what i see for America's future too,
unfortunately.

... anyone in France or Italy willing to sponsor my work?
if so, i'm yours for the taking.

;-)

-monz

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Re: [metatuning] The killing of Hussein's sons: the Nuremberg precedent and the criminalization of the US ruling elite

🔗David Beardsley <db@...>

🔗kraig grady <kraiggrady@...>

🔗kraig grady <kraiggrady@...>

🔗monz@...

🔗Carl Lumma <clumma@...>

🔗monz@...

🔗Pete McRae <peteysan@...>