yes: CTTE writings

Monz, you mentioned various writings (including your own) on CTTE.

Where/when/who?

***From: Christopher Bailey******************

http://music.columbia.edu/~chris

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hi Chris,

> From: "Christopher Bailey" <cb202@...>
> To: <metatuning@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 8:45 AM
> Subject: [metatuning] yes: CTTE writings
>

>
> Monz, you mentioned various writings
> (including your own) on CTTE.
>
>
> Where/when/who?

mine is handwritten and in a folder buried in
my piles of notes somewhere. if i find it i
can xerox it for you.

CTTE is obviously complex enough to inspire
people to analyze it, and i've seen a few that
didn't get too deep, so i didn't bother remembering
where they were.

the best one i read was in a book that
paul erlich had when i visited him in 1999.
you'd have to rely on him for that info,
unless anyone else knows what i'm talking about.

perhaps the most important bit of info i got
on CTTE was from a friend who told me long ago
that he read an interview where Jon Anderson
said the lyrics were about a dream he had where
he had died. that allowed me to get much further
into the song, because suddenly all those weird
images in the lyrics made a lot of sense ...
about transformation from the material to the
spiritual world, about "the man who showed his
outstretched arm to space", etc.

-monz

Chris,

Transcribe it, or get this:

http://tinyurl.com/ev7k?___YesCompleteDeluxe

The music tells it all. Well, most of it.

> the best one i read was in a book that
> paul erlich had when i visited him in 1999.
> you'd have to rely on him for that info,
> unless anyone else knows what i'm talking about.

There are two books I've seen that attempt
analysis of Yes music. I've read and own
them both, though I don't have them handy.
I forget which one Paul has, but I think this
was the better of the two...

http://tinyurl.com/ev7t?___MusicOfYes

...the other one isn't listed on Amazon that
I see (though I can't remember the name).

> perhaps the most important bit of info i got
> on CTTE was from a friend who told me long ago
> that he read an interview where Jon Anderson
> said the lyrics were about a dream he had where
> he had died. that allowed me to get much further
> into the song, because suddenly all those weird
> images in the lyrics made a lot of sense ...
> about transformation from the material to the
> spiritual world, about "the man who showed his
> outstretched arm to space", etc.

I've never heard that. I'd heard that ctte was
based on Hesse's Siddhartha.

-Carl

here's a website that has a pretty good
analysis of CTTE and it also mentions Siddhartha.

http://www.yesworld.com/ctte_covach/Close_to_the_Edge.html

-monz

> From: "Carl Lumma" <clumma@...>
> To: <metatuning@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 4:03 PM
> Subject: [metatuning] Re: yes: CTTE writings
>
>
> Chris,
>
> Transcribe it, or get this:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ev7k?___YesCompleteDeluxe
>
> The music tells it all. Well, most of it.
>
> > the best one i read was in a book that
> > paul erlich had when i visited him in 1999.
> > you'd have to rely on him for that info,
> > unless anyone else knows what i'm talking about.
>
> There are two books I've seen that attempt
> analysis of Yes music. I've read and own
> them both, though I don't have them handy.
> I forget which one Paul has, but I think this
> was the better of the two...
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ev7t?___MusicOfYes
>
> ...the other one isn't listed on Amazon that
> I see (though I can't remember the name).
>
> > perhaps the most important bit of info i got
> > on CTTE was from a friend who told me long ago
> > that he read an interview where Jon Anderson
> > said the lyrics were about a dream he had where
> > he had died. that allowed me to get much further
> > into the song, because suddenly all those weird
> > images in the lyrics made a lot of sense ...
> > about transformation from the material to the
> > spiritual world, about "the man who showed his
> > outstretched arm to space", etc.
>
> I've never heard that. I'd heard that ctte was
> based on Hesse's Siddhartha.
>
> -Carl

--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Lumma" <clumma@y...> wrote:
> Chris,
>
> Transcribe it, or get this:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ev7k?___YesCompleteDeluxe
>
> The music tells it all. Well, most of it.
>
> > the best one i read was in a book that
> > paul erlich had when i visited him in 1999.
> > you'd have to rely on him for that info,
> > unless anyone else knows what i'm talking about.
>
> There are two books I've seen that attempt
> analysis of Yes music. I've read and own
> them both, though I don't have them handy.
> I forget which one Paul has, but I think this
> was the better of the two...
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ev7t?___MusicOfYes
>
> ...the other one isn't listed on Amazon that
> I see (though I can't remember the name).

by ed macan?

> > http://tinyurl.com/ev7t?___MusicOfYes
> >
> > ...the other one isn't listed on Amazon that
> > I see (though I can't remember the name).
>
> by ed macan?

I don't remember. Searching Amazon, I don't
see a Yes book... there is something that
looks like a general prog book.

-Carl

--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Lumma" <clumma@y...> wrote:
> > > http://tinyurl.com/ev7t?___MusicOfYes
> > >
> > > ...the other one isn't listed on Amazon that
> > > I see (though I can't remember the name).
> >
> > by ed macan?
>
> I don't remember. Searching Amazon, I don't
> see a Yes book... there is something that
> looks like a general prog book.
>
that's the one!