Yahoo Tuning Groups Ultimate Backup metatuning more on the museum

maybe try this one:

actually the nytimes had a story on it too (i'll copy it here since you have
to register there):

April 13, 2003
Pillagers Strip Iraqi Museum of Its Treasure
By JOHN F. BURNS

AGHDAD, Iraq, April 12 - The National Museum of Iraq recorded a history of
civilizations that began to flourish in the fertile plains of Mesopotamia
more than 7,000 years ago. But once American troops entered Baghdad in
sufficient force to topple Saddam Hussein's government this week, it took
only 48 hours for the museum to be destroyed, with at least 170,000
artifacts carried away by looters.

The full extent of the disaster that befell the museum came to light only
today, as the frenzied looting that swept much of the capital over the
previous three days began to ebb.

As fires in a dozen government ministries and agencies began to burn out,
and as looters tired of pillaging in the 90-degree heat, museum officials
reached the hotels where foreign journalists were staying along the eastern
bank of the Tigris River. They brought word of what is likely to be reckoned
as one of the greatest cultural disasters in recent Middle Eastern history.

A full accounting of what has been lost may take weeks or months. The museum
had been closed during much of the 1990's, and as with many Iraqi
institutions, its operations were cloaked in secrecy under Mr. Hussein.

So what officials told journalists today may have to be adjusted as a fuller
picture comes to light. It remains unclear whether some of the museum's
priceless gold, silver and copper antiquities, some of its ancient stone and
ceramics and perhaps some of its fabled bronzes and gold-overlaid ivory, had
been locked away for safekeeping elsewhere before the looting, or seized for
private display in one of Mr. Hussein's myriad palaces.

What was beyond contest today was that the 28 galleries of the museum and
vaults with huge steel doors guarding storage chambers that descend floor
after floor into unlighted darkness had been completely ransacked.

Officials with crumpled spirits fought back tears and anger at American
troops, as they ran down an inventory of the most storied items that they
said had been carried away by the thousands of looters who poured into the
museum after daybreak on Thursday and remained until dusk on Friday, with
only one intervention by American forces, lasting about half an hour, at
lunchtime on Thursday.

Nothing remained, museum officials said, at least nothing of real value,
from a museum that had been regarded by archaeologists and other specialists
as perhaps the richest of all such institutions in the Middle East.

As examples of what was gone, the officials cited a solid gold harp from the
Sumerian era, which began about 3360 B.C. and started to crumble about 2000
B.C. Another item on their list of looted antiquities was a sculptured head
of a woman from Uruk, one of the great Sumerian cities, dating from about
the same era, and a collection of gold necklaces, bracelets and earrings,
also from the Sumerian dynasties and also at least 4,000 years old.

But an item-by-item inventory of the most valued pieces carried away by the
looters hardly seemed to capture the magnitude of what had occurred. More
powerful, in its way, was the action of one museum official in hurrying away
through the piles of smashed ceramics and torn books and burned-out torches
of rags soaked in gasoline that littered the museum's corridors to find the
glossy catalog of an exhibition of "Silk Road Civilizations" that was held
in Japan's ancient capital of Nara in 1988.

Turning to 50 pages of items lent by the Iraqi museum for the exhibition, he
said none of the antiquities pictured remained after the looting. They
included ancient stone carvings of bulls and kings and princesses; copper
shoes and cuneiform tablets; tapestry fragments and ivory figurines of
goddesses and women and Nubian porters; friezes of soldiers and ancient
seals and tablets on geometry; and ceramic jars and urns and bowls, all
dating back at least 2,000 years, some more than 5,000 years.

"All gone, all gone," he said. "All gone in two days."

An Iraqi archaeologist who has taken part in the excavation of some of the
country's 10,000 sites, Raid Abdul Ridhar Muhammad, said he went into the
street in the Karkh district, a short distance from the eastern bank of the
Tigris, about 1 p.m. on Thursday to find American troops to quell the
looting. By that time, he and other museum officials said, the several acres
of museum grounds were overrun by thousands of men, women and children, many
of them armed with rifles, pistols, axes, knives and clubs, as well as
pieces of metal torn from the suspensions of wrecked cars. The crowd was
storming out of the complex carrying antiquities on hand carts, bicycles and
wheelbarrows and in boxes. Looters stuffed their pockets with smaller items.

Mr. Muhammad said that he had found an American Abrams tank in Museum
Square, about 300 yards away, and that five marines had followed him back
into the museum and opened fire above the looters' heads. That drove several
thousand of the marauders out of the museum complex in minutes, he said, but
when the tank crewmen left about 30 minutes later, the looters returned.

"I asked them to bring their tank inside the museum grounds," he said. "But
they refused and left. About half an hour later, the looters were back, and
they threatened to kill me, or to tell the Americans that I am a spy for
Saddam Hussein's intelligence, so that the Americans would kill me. So I was
frightened, and I went home."

Mohsen Hassan, a 56-year-old deputy curator, returned to the museum on
Saturday afternoon after visiting military commanders a mile away at the
Palestine Hotel, with a request that American troops be placed in the museum
to protect the building and items left by the looters in the vaults. Mr.
Hassan said the American officers had given him no assurances that they
would guard the museum around the clock, but other American commanders
announced later in the day that joint patrols with unarmed Iraqi police
units would begin as early as Sunday in an attempt to prevent further
looting.

Mr. Hassan, who said he had spent 34 years helping to develop the museum's
collection, described watching as men took sledgehammers to locked glass
display cases and in some instances fired rifles and pistols to break the
locks.

He said that many of the looters appeared to be from the impoverished
districts of the city where anger at Mr. Hussein ran at its strongest, but
that others were middle-class people who appeared to know exactly what they
were looking for.

"Did some of them know the value of what they took?" he said. "Absolutely,
they did. They knew what the most valued pieces in our collection were."

Mr. Muhammad spoke with deep bitterness toward the Americans, as have many
Iraqis who have watched looting that began with attacks on government
agencies and the palaces and villas of Mr. Hussein, his family and his inner
circle broaden into a tidal wave of looting that struck just about every
government institution, even ministries dealing with issues like higher
education, trade and agriculture, and hospitals.

American troops have intervened only sporadically, as they did on Friday to
halt a crowd of men and boys who were raiding an armory at the edge of the
Republican Palace presidential compound and taking brand-new Kalashnikov
rifles, rocket-propelled grenades and other weapons.

American commanders have said they lack the troops to curb the looting while
their focus remains on the battles across Baghdad that are necessary to mop
up pockets of resistance from paramilitary forces loyal to Mr. Hussein.

As reporters returned from the national museum to their hotels beside the
Tigris tonight, marines guarding the hotels were caught in a heavy firefight
with Iraqis across the river, and the neighborhoods erupted with tank and
heavy machine-gun fire. Western television cameramen who went onto the
embankment beside the Palestine Hotel to film the battle were pulled from
danger by helmeted marines who dragged them down behind concrete parapets
and waved to reporters on the hotel's upper balconies to get down.

Mr. Muhammad, the archaeologist, directed much of his anger at President
Bush. "A country's identity, its value and civilization resides in its
history," he said. "If a country's civilization is looted, as ours has been
here, its history ends. Please tell this to President Bush. Please remind
him that he promised to liberate the Iraqi people, but that this is not a
liberation, this is a humiliation."

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kraig Grady [mailto:kraiggrady@...]
> Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 3:15 AM
> To: metatuning@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [metatuning] more on the museum
>
>
> Couldn't get this page to come up, even going to Cnn and following links.
> Just what did the american counterpart to the old Pravda have to say?
>
> Were their pictures of people looting?
>
> Dante Rosati wrote:
>
> >
> http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/04/12/sprj.irq.int.baghdad.mus
> eum.reut/i
> > ndex.html
> >
> >
>
> -- -Kraig Grady
> North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island
> http://www.anaphoria.com
> The Wandering Medicine Show
> KXLU 88.9 FM WED 8-9PM PST
>
>
>
> Meta Tuning meta-info:
>
> To unsubscribe, send an email to:
> metatuning-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> Web page is http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/metatuning/
>
> To post to the list, send to
> metatuning@yahoogroups.com
>
> You don't have to be a member to post.
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>

more on the museum

🔗Dante Rosati <dante.interport@...>

🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

🔗Dante Rosati <dante.interport@...>