Google as Big Brother

http://www.google-watch.org/bigbro.html

--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Dante Rosati"
<dante.interport@r...> wrote:
> http://www.google-watch.org/bigbro.html

i challenge anyone to get any search engine to find
www.stretch-music.com . . .

Paul,

--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "wallyesterpaulrus" <wallyesterpaulrus@y...> wrote:
> i challenge anyone to get any search engine to find
> www.stretch-music.com . . .

Don't take this as unkind, but the putting-together of that site isn't just hack work, it ignores many of the important features of basic web design strategy. For instance, no one has placed keywords in the meta-tag sections, so none of the search engines that still utilize metas while they spider are going to find anything that they can include in client searches.

As for Google, which is how it came up, one of the most important criteria is how many sites link *to* yours - have you tried to network and get other music sites to link to yours?

If you want this site to be not only included in searches on the web, but to be taken seriously in this day and age, you need to contact someone who knows a little bit about setting up a site. I'm willing to bet in the tech-savvy greater Boston area you can find some college kid that can help out, maybe barter for guitar lessons from you...

Cheers,
Jon

--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Szanto" <JSZANTO@A...> wrote:
> Paul,
>
> --- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "wallyesterpaulrus"
<wallyesterpaulrus@y...> wrote:
> > i challenge anyone to get any search engine to find
> > www.stretch-music.com . . .
>
> Don't take this as unkind, but the putting-together of that site
>isn't just hack work, it ignores many of the important features of
>basic web design strategy.

i agree (did you seriously believe i could think otherwise??). but i
don't think you understand how this works. unless you pay extra $$$,
you're allowed to enter some text, upload a single graphic, and
that's it -- no further control is provided.

oh yeah, there is a provision to use an outside url, the design of
which has been promised to the bass player's friend in ny . . . still
waiting . . . (yes, i've offered to put money into this, out of my
own pocket, but waiting seems to be the operative strategy . . .)

> As for Google, which is how it came up, one of the most important
>criteria is how many sites link *to* yours - have you tried to
>network and get other music sites to link to yours?

yes, a few do. thanks for reminding me, though.

anyway, we're doing great business these days just through playing
out . . . people see us, gigs roll in . . . which reminds me i have
to update the wish-it-was-a-website to mention our second
residency . . .

Paul,

--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "wallyesterpaulrus" <wallyesterpaulrus@y...> wrote:
> but i don't think you understand how this works.

There is nothing about the web site that would tip me off how it is being hosted; I was not aware this was a low-cost domain host situation.

> unless you pay extra $$$, you're allowed to enter some text,
> upload a single graphic, and
> that's it -- no further control is provided.

Unfortunately, then, the adage is correct: you get what you pay for.

www.catalog.com will host a domain for (IIRC) about $25 a year, with (IIRC) a one-time $25 admin fee. Complete control, plenty of space, plenty of widgets. All one needs for a full-on site.

> yes, a few do. thanks for reminding me, though.

More will help, but it takes time. If you consider the band a long-term investment, consider just a tiny bit more time, effort, and $ in your web presence. If you want to be more than a local band, it should pay off.

Cheers,
Jon

--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "wallyesterpaulrus"
<wallyesterpaulrus@y...> wrote:
> --- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Dante Rosati"
> <dante.interport@r...> wrote:
> > http://www.google-watch.org/bigbro.html
>
> i challenge anyone to get any search engine to find
> www.stretch-music.com . . .

From Teoma.com:

Showing 1-1 of about 1

STRETCH Home Page
...www. STRETCH Home Page ... send an e-mail to
stretch-music-subscribe@yahoogroups... and you'll be added to
our mailing list. The Stretch seed was...
www.stretch-music.com/

wow, i never even heard of teoma! well, you (and teoma) get the
prize!

one free copy of _the forms of tonality_ and the stretch studio demo
CD!

mailing address, please (e-mail it)?

--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "John Starrett" <jstarret@c...>
wrote:
> --- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "wallyesterpaulrus"
> <wallyesterpaulrus@y...> wrote:
> > --- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Dante Rosati"
> > <dante.interport@r...> wrote:
> > > http://www.google-watch.org/bigbro.html
> >
> > i challenge anyone to get any search engine to find
> > www.stretch-music.com . . .
>
> From Teoma.com:
>
> Showing 1-1 of about 1
>
> STRETCH Home Page
> ...www. STRETCH Home Page ... send an e-mail to
> stretch-music-subscribe@yahoogroups... and you'll be added to
> our mailing list. The Stretch seed was...
> www.stretch-music.com/

--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "wallyesterpaulrus"
<wallyesterpaulrus@y...> wrote:
> wow, i never even heard of teoma! well, you (and teoma) get the
> prize!
>
> one free copy of _the forms of tonality_ and the stretch studio demo
> CD!
>
> mailing address, please (e-mail it)?
<snip>

Thanks! The mail is in the mail.

John Starrett