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🔗Carl Lumma <clumma@...> <clumma@...>

2/10/2003 12:23:29 AM

http://tinyurl.com/5lj0

Wikipedia never ceases to impress!

This iteration of the DOJ never ceases to
sicken!

An interesting line of thinking is: do the
authors of this bill expect it to pass?
Look at the EPA thing tacked on! I wonder
if this is part of a program to pass similar
legislation by first penning something
outrageous, and then actually getting a
weaker version passed, that could only look
good in comparison.

-Carl

🔗John Starrett <jstarret@...> <jstarret@...>

2/10/2003 9:55:13 PM

--- In metatuning@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Lumma <clumma@y...>"
<clumma@y...> wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/5lj0
>
> Wikipedia never ceases to impress!
>
> This iteration of the DOJ never ceases to
> sicken!
>
> An interesting line of thinking is: do the
> authors of this bill expect it to pass?
> Look at the EPA thing tacked on! I wonder
> if this is part of a program to pass similar
> legislation by first penning something
> outrageous, and then actually getting a
> weaker version passed, that could only look
> good in comparison.
>
> -Carl

It will pass alright, but not with the margin the first piece of shit
had. We are still ruled by dolts, idiots and syncophants, but some
folks are waking up just a little.

John Starrett

🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

2/10/2003 10:45:38 PM

If there people are only "waking up a little" then they will reap what they
sow.

If these people proposing such laws are not traitors to the constitution
then what types of lawmakers would be? Can you think of a single one of our
founding intellects that would support such a thing. Not even Hamilton. yet
it resembles more the mentality of an Arron Burr

These are nonsense laws, anyone commiting a crime or conspiracy to commit
murder is quite easily prosecuted.

The idea of exiling american citizens to other countries will result in a
covert trail to executions and torture centers set up on the far side where
they will be dealt with. or like the salvadoreans who were exiled never
arrived at there destination. given parachute lessons without them.
all without trial or any form of hearing. It will be a great way to get
others property and to terrorize whole group of people.
Just who are you afraid of ?
If one can argue that there is not a conspiracy to dismantle the basic
foundation of our government, then i would like to know just what would it
be like then if this is not it?

you have certain bodies that are immune to prosecution (corporations,
insurance companies, hospitals, etc) while others are guilty until proven
innocent.

just what is it that we are suppose to be defending?
is there anything more than property?

"John Starrett " wrote:

>
> , but some
> folks are waking up just a little.
>
> John Starrett
>

-- -Kraig Grady
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