antisemitism on rise in canada

To make sure I'm keeping things balanced, here's a story that doesn't
involve Muslims.

Just so there's no question, I consider this American Indian leader to be
morally depraved and unworthy of his leadership position.

---

Ex-FSIN chief praises Hitler in speech

http://www.canada.com/national/story.asp?id=EB44622B-2CC7-45D6-A672-6495FC34
E5FE
 
James Parker
The StarPhoenix

Saturday, December 14, 2002

David Ahenakew, former FSIN chief

A respected Saskatchewan Indian leader said Friday Hitler did the right
thing when he "fried" six million Jews during the Second World War.

In comments one local Jewish leader described as unfortunate, David
Ahenakew, a senator with the Federation of Saskatchewan Indian Nations
(FSIN), a former chief of the organization and a former chief of the
Assembly of First Nations (AFN), said in an interview Friday the Nazi leader
was trying to clean up the world during the war.

"The Jews damn near owned all of Germany prior to the war," Ahenakew said.

"That's how Hitler came in. He was going to make damn sure that the Jews
didn't take over Germany or Europe. That's why he fried six million of those
guys, you know. Jews would have owned the goddamned world. And look what
they're doing. They're killing people in Arab countries."

The 68-year-old Ahenakew made his remarks after giving a 45-minute,
profanity-laced address to between 150 and 200 delegates attending an FSIN
conference on a new Health Canada policy requiring Indians to sign a consent
form before receiving certain health services.

During his wide-ranging speech, in which he complained about bigotry in
Canadian society, accused the media of creating racial conflict and
continually referred to non-Indian Canadians as "immigrants," Ahenakew said
he lived in Germany during the late 1950s when he was with the Canadian
army.

He said Germans told him the Jews started the Second World War. He said
Israel and the United States are about to start a third world war, a
reference to the current troubles in the Middle East.

Approached afterwards to clarify his comments on Jews and the Second World
War, Ahenakew said he agreed with his German friends. When asked how he
could justify the Holocaust, Ahenakew said: "How do you get rid of a disease
like that, that's going to take over, that's going to dominate?"

Ahenakew said when he served in Egypt in 1964. he saw Jews kill people. When
asked for details, he said mines planted by the Israeli army killed
civilians.

"All I know is what the Germans told me. Of course, I believe them. I saw
the Jews kill people in Egypt when I was there. The Palestinians, Arabs. I
saw them (Israel) f---ing dominate everything."

Ahenakew said the Canadian army was trying to liberate the world when it
fought in Europe during the Second World War, not liberate Jews. When
reminded the Nazis committed genocide against a variety of ethnic and social
groups, he said "exactly, they were trying to clean up the world."

"I don't support Hitler. But he cleaned up a hell of a lot of things, didn't
he? You would be owned by the Jews right now the world over. Look, a small,
little country (Israel) like that and everyone supports them. Who the hell
owns many of the banks in the states, many of the corporations? Look at here
in Canada. Izzy Asper (chair of CanWest Global, the owner of The
StarPhoenix). He controls the media. What the hell does that tell you?
That's power. That's f---ing power."

Ahenakew, who was FSIN chief from 1968-78 and AFN chief from 1982-85, grew
impatient when told non-Jews own media companies, as well.

"The hell with the Jews. I can't stand them. And that's it. I don't want to
talk about them."

FSIN vice-chief Lawrence Joseph sat at the conference's head table while
Ahenakew gave his speech.

After hearing a tape recording of the interview, Joseph said the conference
was about government oppression, not about the war or the Jews.

"Whatever he says personally is an opinion as a war veteran. He has that
right. Similar to (Saskatoon MP) Jim Pankiw (who has sent out controversial
pamphlets on Indian issues); he's entitled to an opinion, negative or
otherwise."

Joseph said Ahenakew is an unelected official who does not speak for the
FSIN. All former FSIN chiefs are eligible to become lifetime senators should
they choose with the organization.

"It depends on how it's packaged," Joseph said when asked whether he thought
Ahenakew's comments would be damaging to the federation.

"If the headline is superseding a very important event about consent
(forms), it's up to you to do that."

FSIN chief Perry Bellegarde, who did not attend the conference, also
stressed Ahenakew was not an elected official.

"It's not an official position of anybody except Dave Ahenakew. That's where
it rests. He's entitled to his opinion. We, as indigenous peoples, are
fighting for our survival. We also push peaceful co-existence between our
peoples and everybody else."

When asked if he feels comfortable having Ahenakew represent the FSIN at
public functions, Bellegarde said, "you're the guy writing this. Don't quote
him."

Roger Pavey, a retired rabbi and a university lecturer, said Ahenakew's
comments are especially unfortunate because many Jewish people are
supporters of First Nations people and "their claims and demands."

"It's up to them as to who they want as their leaders. It's unfortunate he
has those opinions and I wish he didn't. I hope he isn't representative of
the Native leadership. I don't think he is."

Ahenakew, the father of FSIN vice-chief Greg Ahenakew, is renowned in the
Indian political world for his blunt talk.

In his speech, he criticized the provincial auditor for demanding better
management at the Saskatchewan Indian Gaming Authority (SIGA). In his fall
report released Thursday, Fred Wendel said SIGA hasn't done enough to clean
up its business practices.

"They don't give a shit about you," Ahenakew said of the report.

"You (First Nations people) spent your tax money building the Regina and
Moose Jaw casinos (which are owned by the province). They used your money.
How much did they spend creating our casinos? Not one bloody penny. And yet
they say the money is theirs right from the word go, that it's public money
and we have to account to them. What kind of bullshit is that? We don't even
have to talk to these suckers."

Ahenakew told the gathering he has warned provincial officials that "40
years down the road, we're going to be taking over (because of population
growth among Indian people). We're going to be the government. You
(non-Indians) are going to be the Indians and we're going to be the bosses.
And you (the government) better start preparing right now."

He also complained about bigotry in city schools.

"My great grandson goes to school here in Saskatoon. These goddamned
immigrants -- East Indians, Pakistanis, Afghanistan, whites and so forth --
call him a dirty little Indian. He's the cleanest of the old goddamn works
there. That's what I'm saying. It's starting right there, at six years old."

© Copyright  2002 The StarPhoenix (Saskatoon)

Just to really get you going, many of the American Andian Concils have referred
to the palestinians as the indians of the mid east
and have met time and time again with Arafat. I am sorry to see one of them
degenerate into such hypocritical nonsense. He must know that the Nazi's
studied the US treatment of the indians as a model of dealing with the Jews.
They really liked Kit Carson.

BTW i ended up tranferring an old cassette tape with a recording of a jewish
horn playing the tune that knocked down the Wall of Jerico. Years ago for a
christian show they asked me to overdub it adding to it power and give it some
bite. In the end they didn't like what i did, they said it was too "musical".
So i kept the tape around with a big loop/ cluster and will someday find a good
musical home for it!

"X. J. Scott" wrote:

> To make sure I'm keeping things balanced, here's a story that doesn't
> involve Muslims.
>
> Just so there's no question, I consider this American Indian leader to be
> morally depraved and unworthy of his leadership position.
>
> ---
>
> Ex-FSIN chief praises Hitler in speech
>
> http://www.canada.com/national/story.asp?id=EB44622B-2CC7-45D6-A672-6495FC34
> E5FE
> �
> James Parker
> The StarPhoenix
>
> Saturday, December 14, 2002
>
> David Ahenakew, former FSIN chief
>
> A respected Saskatchewan Indian leader said Friday Hitler did the right
> thing when he "fried" six million Jews during the Second World War.
>
> In comments one local Jewish leader described as unfortunate, David
> Ahenakew, a senator with the Federation of Saskatchewan Indian Nations
> (FSIN), a former chief of the organization and a former chief of the
> Assembly of First Nations (AFN), said in an interview Friday the Nazi leader
> was trying to clean up the world during the war.
>
> "The Jews damn near owned all of Germany prior to the war," Ahenakew said.
>
> "That's how Hitler came in. He was going to make damn sure that the Jews
> didn't take over Germany or Europe. That's why he fried six million of those
> guys, you know. Jews would have owned the goddamned world. And look what
> they're doing. They're killing people in Arab countries."
>
> The 68-year-old Ahenakew made his remarks after giving a 45-minute,
> profanity-laced address to between 150 and 200 delegates attending an FSIN
> conference on a new Health Canada policy requiring Indians to sign a consent
> form before receiving certain health services.
>
> During his wide-ranging speech, in which he complained about bigotry in
> Canadian society, accused the media of creating racial conflict and
> continually referred to non-Indian Canadians as "immigrants," Ahenakew said
> he lived in Germany during the late 1950s when he was with the Canadian
> army.
>
> He said Germans told him the Jews started the Second World War. He said
> Israel and the United States are about to start a third world war, a
> reference to the current troubles in the Middle East.
>
> Approached afterwards to clarify his comments on Jews and the Second World
> War, Ahenakew said he agreed with his German friends. When asked how he
> could justify the Holocaust, Ahenakew said: "How do you get rid of a disease
> like that, that's going to take over, that's going to dominate?"
>
> Ahenakew said when he served in Egypt in 1964. he saw Jews kill people. When
> asked for details, he said mines planted by the Israeli army killed
> civilians.
>
> "All I know is what the Germans told me. Of course, I believe them. I saw
> the Jews kill people in Egypt when I was there. The Palestinians, Arabs. I
> saw them (Israel) f---ing dominate everything."
>
> Ahenakew said the Canadian army was trying to liberate the world when it
> fought in Europe during the Second World War, not liberate Jews. When
> reminded the Nazis committed genocide against a variety of ethnic and social
> groups, he said "exactly, they were trying to clean up the world."
>
> "I don't support Hitler. But he cleaned up a hell of a lot of things, didn't
> he? You would be owned by the Jews right now the world over. Look, a small,
> little country (Israel) like that and everyone supports them. Who the hell
> owns many of the banks in the states, many of the corporations? Look at here
> in Canada. Izzy Asper (chair of CanWest Global, the owner of The
> StarPhoenix). He controls the media. What the hell does that tell you?
> That's power. That's f---ing power."
>
> Ahenakew, who was FSIN chief from 1968-78 and AFN chief from 1982-85, grew
> impatient when told non-Jews own media companies, as well.
>
> "The hell with the Jews. I can't stand them. And that's it. I don't want to
> talk about them."
>
> FSIN vice-chief Lawrence Joseph sat at the conference's head table while
> Ahenakew gave his speech.
>
> After hearing a tape recording of the interview, Joseph said the conference
> was about government oppression, not about the war or the Jews.
>
> "Whatever he says personally is an opinion as a war veteran. He has that
> right. Similar to (Saskatoon MP) Jim Pankiw (who has sent out controversial
> pamphlets on Indian issues); he's entitled to an opinion, negative or
> otherwise."
>
> Joseph said Ahenakew is an unelected official who does not speak for the
> FSIN. All former FSIN chiefs are eligible to become lifetime senators should
> they choose with the organization.
>
> "It depends on how it's packaged," Joseph said when asked whether he thought
> Ahenakew's comments would be damaging to the federation.
>
> "If the headline is superseding a very important event about consent
> (forms), it's up to you to do that."
>
> FSIN chief Perry Bellegarde, who did not attend the conference, also
> stressed Ahenakew was not an elected official.
>
> "It's not an official position of anybody except Dave Ahenakew. That's where
> it rests. He's entitled to his opinion. We, as indigenous peoples, are
> fighting for our survival. We also push peaceful co-existence between our
> peoples and everybody else."
>
> When asked if he feels comfortable having Ahenakew represent the FSIN at
> public functions, Bellegarde said, "you're the guy writing this. Don't quote
> him."
>
> Roger Pavey, a retired rabbi and a university lecturer, said Ahenakew's
> comments are especially unfortunate because many Jewish people are
> supporters of First Nations people and "their claims and demands."
>
> "It's up to them as to who they want as their leaders. It's unfortunate he
> has those opinions and I wish he didn't. I hope he isn't representative of
> the Native leadership. I don't think he is."
>
> Ahenakew, the father of FSIN vice-chief Greg Ahenakew, is renowned in the
> Indian political world for his blunt talk.
>
> In his speech, he criticized the provincial auditor for demanding better
> management at the Saskatchewan Indian Gaming Authority (SIGA). In his fall
> report released Thursday, Fred Wendel said SIGA hasn't done enough to clean
> up its business practices.
>
> "They don't give a shit about you," Ahenakew said of the report.
>
> "You (First Nations people) spent your tax money building the Regina and
> Moose Jaw casinos (which are owned by the province). They used your money.
> How much did they spend creating our casinos? Not one bloody penny. And yet
> they say the money is theirs right from the word go, that it's public money
> and we have to account to them. What kind of bullshit is that? We don't even
> have to talk to these suckers."
>
> Ahenakew told the gathering he has warned provincial officials that "40
> years down the road, we're going to be taking over (because of population
> growth among Indian people). We're going to be the government. You
> (non-Indians) are going to be the Indians and we're going to be the bosses.
> And you (the government) better start preparing right now."
>
> He also complained about bigotry in city schools.
>
> "My great grandson goes to school here in Saskatoon. These goddamned
> immigrants -- East Indians, Pakistanis, Afghanistan, whites and so forth --
> call him a dirty little Indian. He's the cleanest of the old goddamn works
> there. That's what I'm saying. It's starting right there, at six years old."
>
> ��Copyright �2002�The StarPhoenix (Saskatoon)
>
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