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Giant spider web

🔗John Starrett <jstarret@...>

11/30/2002 7:17:05 PM

http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2002/11/22/spiders021121

PRINCE GEORGE, B.C. - A biology professor in northern British
Columbia has spotted a clover field crawling with spiders.

Brian Thair of the College of New Caledonia in Prince George said
he saw a silky, white web stretching 60 acres across a field.

"When you see horror movies with spider web festooned from this
place to that place and so on, it comes nowhere near approaching
what occurred in this field," Thair told CBC Radio's As It Happens.

A typical barbwire fence on wood posts surrounded the field about
six kilometres east of McBride in the Robson Valley. Thair said it
looked like the whole area was covered with an opaque, white plastic
grocery store bag.

The thin, elastic coasting was not soft and fluffy like webs built by
individual spiders. There were about two spiders per square centimetre
laying the silk, which first appeared in early October.

Thair said the web showed great tensile strength â€" enough to put a
handful of coins on it without them falling through.

Crazy ideas proposed to explain web

There were "in the order of tens of millions of spiders running frantically=
back and forth," but they weren't interacting with each other.

Since the spiders didn't seem to care if an occasional insect stumbled into=
their construction, Thair doesn't think it was built for trapping purposes.=

He suggests the spiders encountered an enormous quantity of high quality, n=
utritious prey to be able to accomplish this feat.

But he's also heard other suggestions.

"Some people have said, 'oh yes, well it's a trampoline for aliens,'" Thair=
joked. "Or maybe it was an effort collectively by these spiders to try and =
catch asheep."

Snowstorms and wind have blown away much of the web since he first spotted =
it the week of Oct. 27, but Thair intends to return to the field to see if t=
he spiders have mated successfully.

John Starret

🔗Jon Szanto <JSZANTO@...>

11/30/2002 9:40:48 PM

John,

--- In metatuning@y..., "John Starrett" <jstarret@c...> wrote:
> PRINCE GEORGE, B.C. - A biology professor in northern British
> Columbia has spotted a clover field crawling with spiders.
> Brian Thair of the College of New Caledonia in Prince George said
> he saw a silky, white web stretching 60 acres across a field.

I saw this on the news (TV) just before I left for work this evening - it is amazing!

Cheers,
Jon

🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

11/30/2002 10:37:59 PM

The Hopi's have Spider Grandmother

There is a thickening in the web, the fabric that runs though us all-Madame Spiral

Jon Szanto wrote:

> John,
>
> --- In metatuning@y..., "John Starrett" <jstarret@c...> wrote:
> > PRINCE GEORGE, B.C. - A biology professor in northern British
> > Columbia has spotted a clover field crawling with spiders.
> > Brian Thair of the College of New Caledonia in Prince George said
> > he saw a silky, white web stretching 60 acres across a field.
>
> I saw this on the news (TV) just before I left for work this evening - it is amazing!
>
> Cheers,
> Jon
>
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🔗John Starrett <jstarret@...>

11/30/2002 11:25:32 PM

--- In metatuning@y..., Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@a...> wrote:
> The Hopi's have Spider Grandmother
>
> There is a thickening in the web, the fabric that runs though us all-Madame Spiral
<snip>

Can you tell us more about this?
John Starrett

🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

12/1/2002 2:03:06 AM

Spider grandmother is their supreme deity who weaved the universe in which the dew that
collected we call stars.

The best book is by Harold Courlander, The fourth world of the Hopi's

Harold is one of those people who have fallen in the cracks and deserve more notice.
relavant to us here is that this great story teller
has influenced us here in that
1. He collected the african tale in which Partch used in Delusion.
2. Was editor in Chief for a period for folkways records
3. Was one of the first (concurrent with Maya deren in fact) collecting the music and
background of music in Haiti.
4. One of his books sections reappears as four chapter in the book ,Roots. Lawsuit
results with him being awarded a 7 figure amount with alex haley admitting he "didn't
know how they ended up in his book , but it was there". This is only large money making
event in his life (from what it appears)
5. After traveling extensively thoughout his life he settles in 4 corner area and
documents the Hopi's until he death (88?-89?)

John Starrett wrote:

> --- In metatuning@y..., Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@a...> wrote:
> > The Hopi's have Spider Grandmother
>
>
> Can you tell us more about this?
>

-- -Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island
http://www.anaphoria.com
The Wandering Medicine Show
KXLU 88.9 FM 8-9PM PST

🔗wallyesterpaulrus <wallyesterpaulrus@...>

12/1/2002 2:18:55 PM

--- In metatuning@y..., Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@a...> wrote:
> The Hopi's have Spider Grandmother

yes, i remember this from "Buffalo Gals" by Ursula Leguin, i did
music for a production of this . . . grandmother spider's entrance
of course got the most intense music . . .

🔗peteysan@...

12/2/2002 10:38:53 PM

Hi, Kraig!

I'd want to emphasize that as a storyteller, Mr.
Courlander is equal parts dignified, poetic, and FUN!

Last time I checked, it was hard to find his stuff
for sale, but my local libraries were reasonably well-
supplied.

Pete
--- Original Message ---
From: Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>
To: metatuning@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [metatuning] Re: Giant spider web

>Spider grandmother is their supreme deity who weaved
the universe in which the dew that
>collected we call stars.
>
> The best book is by Harold Courlander, The fourth
world of the Hopi's
>
>Harold is one of those people who have fallen in the
cracks and deserve more notice.
>relavant to us here is that this great story teller
>has influenced us here in that
>1. He collected the african tale in which Partch
used in Delusion.
>2. Was editor in Chief for a period for folkways
records
>3. Was one of the first (concurrent with Maya deren
in fact) collecting the music and
>background of music in Haiti.
>4. One of his books sections reappears as four
chapter in the book ,Roots. Lawsuit
>results with him being awarded a 7 figure amount
with alex haley admitting he "didn't
>know how they ended up in his book , but it was
there". This is only large money making
>event in his life (from what it appears)
>5. After traveling extensively thoughout his life he
settles in 4 corner area and
>documents the Hopi's until he death (88?-89?)
>
>
>John Starrett wrote:
>
>> --- In metatuning@y..., Kraig Grady
<kraiggrady@a...> wrote:
>> > The Hopi's have Spider Grandmother
>>
>>
>> Can you tell us more about this?
>>
>
>-- -Kraig Grady
>North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island
> http://www.anaphoria.com
>The Wandering Medicine Show
> KXLU 88.9 FM 8-9PM PST
>
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