Re: [metatuning] in the US too

By Anti Semitic if they mean Anti Zionistic as they imply would have to include
Einstein.
Basically i am sick of the intimidation that if you don't support Sharon you
are anti-Semitic.
I know PLENTY of Jews in this Category.

How the hell do they come up with these numbers?

"X. J. Scott" wrote:

> Antisemitism is not just on the rise in Europe but the US too.
>
> Here we see that 17% of the US population harbors what is termed "hard-core"
> anti-semitism.
>
> The good news is that only a small additional 35% are moderately
> antisemitic.
>
> http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=175350&contrassID
> =2&subContrassID=15&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y
>
> - J
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--- In metatuning@y..., Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@a...> wrote:

> Basically i am sick of the intimidation that if you don't support
Sharon you
> are anti-Semitic.
> I know PLENTY of Jews in this Category.

kraig, where on earth are you getting this "intimidation"? there is
no mention of sharon in that article. in fact, the newspaper it's
printed in is hardly pro-sharon by any stretch of the imagination!

> >
> > http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?
itemNo=175350&contrassID
> > =2&subContrassID=15&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y
> >
> > - J

--- In metatuning@y..., "X. J. Scott" <xjscott@e...> wrote:
> Antisemitism is not just on the rise in Europe but the US too.
>
> Here we see that 17% of the US population harbors what is
termed "hard-core"
> anti-semitism.
>

if you were to apply the same criteria to measure anti-black racism,
i'm sure you'd come up with much higher numbers -- well over 50%, at
least here in the boston area that's true, and in much of the south
i'd guess as well.

probably anti-white racism among blacks comes in at a higher
percentage than anti-semitism in the US, too . . .

i think you missed this

Sharon,
the demon

Whether
the Jews' fear is imaginary or justified, the heads of the Jewish

organizations are not taking any risks. After the first stone was thrown at
a
Jew,
they called the police. After racist curses were heard, they turned to
the
authorities. After the first synagogue was set on fire, they panicked.

"This
is worse than just violence," explained Haim Musicant, the

director-general of CRIF, the umbrella organization of the Jewish

communities in France, "but not as bad as pogroms."

He says
that a campaign of frightening and harming Jews and their

institutions began immediately after the outbreak of the second intifada. A
week
later, there was already a demonstration in the center of Paris at
which
cries of "Death to the Jews" were heard. That week, two synagogues
in the
Paris suburbs were set on fire.

"For
the first time since the Holocaust they burned synagogues and yelled
`Death
to the Jews,'" added Musicant, finding it hard to conceal his

emotions, "and therefore it is no wonder that members of the community
were
alarmed and turned to us for help. It is true that no one was killed or

wounded, but there was harm done to the Jews and their spiritual symbols.
This
caused people to remember events under the Vichy regime and

paralyzed them with fear."

The
authorities did not go out of their way, suggesting to the heads of the
Jewish
organizations that they remain calm and soothe the community.
There
was, at that time, a bleak atmosphere of criticism of the ways Israel
was
putting down the disturbances in the territories. The television networks

endlessly showed Israel's military might striking mercilessly at the

Palestinian rioters. President Jacques Chirac stressed repeatedly the
justice
of the Palestinians' struggle against the occupation and the lack of

restraint by the Israeli army. The Jews found themselves facing a one-sided
French
media and a government that was openly sympathetic to the

Palestinians.

"I
don't know of any other country in the world, apart from Israel, against
which
the French media have incited in such an irresponsible way," said
Prof.
Daniel Dayan, a specialist at the Paris Political Science Institute.
"The
French newspapers, out of a blind love for the Palestinian cause and a
lack of
professionalism, constantly reported that Israel is a cruel country
that
loves to kill Palestinians. No wonder that after such reports, Arab

hoodlums went out and burned synagogues."

And in
this clouded atmosphere, the French were astounded by the

election of Ariel Sharon as prime minister. The moderates argued that his

election proves that the Israelis suffer from self-hatred; stronger critics
went
so far
as to diagnose brain damage that confounded the voters' senses.
Before
Osama bin Laden drew the hatred of the West, Sharon was one of
the
most hated leaders.

"[Sharon] came across as a dangerous monster, as a cruel Israel who
devours
Palestinian children to slake his appetite," said Tarnero. "Ever
since
Sabra and Chatila, this man has undergone a systematic process of

demonization, and when he was elected he was depicted as Satan. Today
in
Europe, Sharon and Israel are a single unit. You have to understand that
the
Europeans are in the post-communist era and they no longer have
anyone
to hate. Therefore, Sharon is a monster, Israel is Nazi Germany
and
Zionism is racism."
How did the political establishment react? As is the wont of spineless

politicians, President Chirac and Prime Minister Lionel Jospin were swept
up by
public opinion, and acted as if they had never seen or heard of the

hundreds of attacks on the Jewish community. At first they dismissed them
as acts
of juvenile delinquency, later they were alarmed by the growth of
the
phenomenon, and finally they kept mum so as not to draw its

implications into the coming presidential elections. Who wants to endanger
his
chances in order to calm a frightened community?

About
two months ago, CRIF president Roger Cuckierman took advantage
of the
annual CRIF conference in Paris to settle accounts with the French

administration's silence.

"Mr.
Prime Minister," he addressed Jospin, who was the guest of honor.
"We are
asking you to prevent a situation in which to the anti-Semitism of
the
extreme right will be added Muslim hostility toward Jews. Most of the
Jews
who live in France came from the North African countries and know
their
culture well. These two communities have a common enemy in the
shape
of the extreme right, and therefore we must cooperate in the struggle
against
it.

"From
our experience we know that when one Jew is threatened, all Jews
are in
danger. And when the Jews are in danger, the liberty of the entire

population is also in danger. There is nothing closer to anti-Semitism than

anti-Zionism."

wallyesterpaulrus wrote:

> --- In metatuning@y..., Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@a...> wrote:
>
> > Basically i am sick of the intimidation that if you don't support
> Sharon you
> > are anti-Semitic.
> > I know PLENTY of Jews in this Category.
>
> kraig, where on earth are you getting this "intimidation"? there is
> no mention of sharon in that article. in fact, the newspaper it's
> printed in is hardly pro-sharon by any stretch of the imagination!
>
> > >
> > > http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?
> itemNo=175350&contrassID
> > > =2&subContrassID=15&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y
> > >
> > > - J
>
>
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--- In metatuning@y..., Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@a...> wrote:

> i think you missed this

kraig, i was talking about the article to which you were responding
(see the subject line: "in the US too"), and not the one about
france, which was the subject of a different article and post.

obviously i didn't read the france article, only the other one!

but no, i don't think the assessment of anti-semitism in the US had
anything to do with feelings about sharon -- as you say, probably
most US jews are anti-sharon, without being "self-hating jews" or
whatever the right wing wishes to call us.

Yes such things are pretty much unspoken out here but just as bad i am sure.
Possibly the tensions among /toward Latinos is the big one here going both
ways. This is very much on the rise here as the flak comes my way too.
despite what the press says, the LA riots had more to do with this latter
groups than let on. How do i know, I was there for days following the
movement. It appeared to be a class war not a race war though.
Come the revolution i will propose changing the name of foothill blvd.
to Rodney King Drive
(we have a Martin Luther King Dr. already)

wallyesterpaulrus wrote:

> --- In metatuning@y..., "X. J. Scott" <xjscott@e...> wrote:
> > Antisemitism is not just on the rise in Europe but the US too.
> >
> > Here we see that 17% of the US population harbors what is
> termed "hard-core"
> > anti-semitism.
> >
>
> if you were to apply the same criteria to measure anti-black racism,
> i'm sure you'd come up with much higher numbers -- well over 50%, at
> least here in the boston area that's true, and in much of the south
> i'd guess as well.
>
> probably anti-white racism among blacks comes in at a higher
> percentage than anti-semitism in the US, too . . .

-- Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria island
http://www.anaphoria.com

The Wandering Medicine Show
KXLU 88.9 fm Wed. 8-9pm PST.
live stream kxlu.com