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drinking as an investment

🔗jdstarrett <jstarret@...>

7/21/2002 5:02:48 PM

If you had bought $1000.00 worth of Nortel stock one year ago, it
would now be worth $49.00. With Enron, you would have $16.50 of the original $1,000.00. With WorldCom, you would have less than $5.00 left. If you had bought $1,000.00 worth of Budweiser (the beer, not the stock) one year ago, drank all the beer, then turned in the cans for the 10 cent deposit, you would have $214.00. Based on the above, the current investment advice is to drink heavily and recycle.

Not mine. It came from somewhere else and I was amused.

John Starrett

🔗monz <monz@...>

7/22/2002 5:51:31 AM

> From: "jdstarrett" <jstarret@...>
> To: <metatuning@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 5:02 PM
> Subject: [metatuning] drinking as an investment
>
>
> If you had bought $1000.00 worth of Nortel stock
> one year ago, it would now be worth $49.00. With
> Enron, you would have $16.50 of the original $1,000.00.
> With WorldCom, you would have less than $5.00 left.
> If you had bought $1,000.00 worth of Budweiser (the
> beer, not the stock) one year ago, drank all the beer,
> then turned in the cans for the 10 cent deposit, you
> would have $214.00. Based on the above, the current
> investment advice is to drink heavily and recycle.
>
> Not mine. It came from somewhere else and I was amused.

i found that very amusing too, except that ...
estimating that the beer would be approximately
$1.00 per can, that amounts to less than 3 beers
per day, which is a fair amount, but not really
what i'd call drinking "heavily".

i don't know how accurate my estimate is, because
i haven't been drinking much beer for years, but
those who do drink might want to do the math and
find out how valuable their stocks really are. :)

-monz

🔗X. J. Scott <xjscott@...>

7/22/2002 8:06:30 AM

>> If you had bought $1,000.00 worth of Budweiser one year ago, drank
>> all the beer, then turned in the cans for the 10 cent deposit, you
>> would have $214.00.

> i found that very amusing too, except that ...
> estimating that the beer would be approximately
> $1.00 per can,

$214.00 / $0.10 = 2140 cans

$1000 / 2140 = 47 cents / can

or $11.25 for a 24-pack case.

> that amounts to less than 3 beers
> per day, which is a fair amount, but not really
> what i'd call drinking "heavily".

Wow! Really? I don't drink beer often but what is heavy then?
A case a day? That'd be a lot of trips to the bathroom.

I really should start drinking more beer by the way. Studies
are showing it's quite good for you -- has calcium and the
micronutrients needed to fix the calcium in the bones.
Researcers now feel that the reason women get more
osteoporosis is mecause they don't drink enough beer.

Grassland products are an excellant source of calcium and
nutrients and beer is about the best way to eat grass there
is.

- Jeff

🔗monz <monz@...>

7/22/2002 11:19:09 PM

thanks for the more accurate math, Jeff.
i realized after i sent that post that it
was pretty easy to calculate, from the
information given, exactly how many beers
that would be. it works out to just under
a 6-pack per day. (2140 beers per year /
365.25 days = ~5.859 beers per day.)

i suppose that yes, that would be "heavy"
drinking. and BTW, i know (and have known
in the past) quite a few people who can/could
and do/did drink between a 6-pack and a case
per day.

and in support of your later comments:

the first grain cultivated by the Sumerians,
and also the one cultivated the most heavily,
was barley, and researchers into ancient
agriculture have reached somewhat of a consensus
that it was desired not primarily for bread,
as was formerly thought, but rather, for beer.

a ration of beer was also stipulated as part of
the payment for Sumerian workers (the guys who
built the ziggurats, dams, walls, etc.), with
the amount increasing as the position increased.
common laborers got about a quart per day, and
foremen and managers got up to about a gallon.

so the brewing of beer actually seems to have been
the catalyst that impelled ancient people to develop
civilization, and all the "progress" that goes along
with it!

-monz

----- Original Message -----
From: "X. J. Scott" <xjscott@...>
To: <metatuning@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: [metatuning] drinking as an investment

>
> >> If you had bought $1,000.00 worth of Budweiser one year ago, drank
> >> all the beer, then turned in the cans for the 10 cent deposit, you
> >> would have $214.00.
>
> > i found that very amusing too, except that ...
> > estimating that the beer would be approximately
> > $1.00 per can,
>
> $214.00 / $0.10 = 2140 cans
>
> $1000 / 2140 = 47 cents / can
>
> or $11.25 for a 24-pack case.
>
> > that amounts to less than 3 beers
> > per day, which is a fair amount, but not really
> > what i'd call drinking "heavily".
>
> Wow! Really? I don't drink beer often but what is heavy then?
> A case a day? That'd be a lot of trips to the bathroom.
>
> I really should start drinking more beer by the way. Studies
> are showing it's quite good for you -- has calcium and the
> micronutrients needed to fix the calcium in the bones.
> Researcers now feel that the reason women get more
> osteoporosis is mecause they don't drink enough beer.
>
> Grassland products are an excellant source of calcium and
> nutrients and beer is about the best way to eat grass there
> is.
>
> - Jeff

🔗X. J. Scott <xjscott@...>

7/23/2002 7:14:17 AM

> a ration of beer was also stipulated as part of
> the payment for Sumerian workers (the guys who
> built the ziggurats, dams, walls, etc.), with
> the amount increasing as the position increased.
> common laborers got about a quart per day, and
> foremen and managers got up to about a gallon.

That's only good sense. No wonder they got so much
accomplished.

> so the brewing of beer actually seems to have been
> the catalyst that impelled ancient people to develop
> civilization, and all the "progress" that goes along
> with it!

Beer makes you strong!

(science proves it)

🔗Dante Rosati <dante.interport@...>

7/23/2002 7:36:50 AM

thats funny. as far as I can tell, beer makes you fat, drunk and stoopit.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: X. J. Scott [mailto:xjscott@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 10:14 AM
> To: metatuning@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [metatuning] drinking as an investment
>
>
>
>
> > a ration of beer was also stipulated as part of
> > the payment for Sumerian workers (the guys who
> > built the ziggurats, dams, walls, etc.), with
> > the amount increasing as the position increased.
> > common laborers got about a quart per day, and
> > foremen and managers got up to about a gallon.
>
> That's only good sense. No wonder they got so much
> accomplished.
>
> > so the brewing of beer actually seems to have been
> > the catalyst that impelled ancient people to develop
> > civilization, and all the "progress" that goes along
> > with it!
>
> Beer makes you strong!
>
>
> (science proves it)
>
>
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🔗X. J. Scott <xjscott@...>

7/23/2002 8:20:15 AM

> thats funny. as far as I can tell, beer makes you fat, drunk and
> stoopit.

whaaasaaa?

<<brack!>>

Hey!

(urp)

🔗monz <monz@...>

7/23/2002 8:54:25 AM

hi Dante and Jeff,

> > From: X. J. Scott [mailto:xjscott@...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 10:14 AM
> > To: metatuning@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [metatuning] drinking as an investment
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > a ration of beer was also stipulated as part of
> > > the payment for Sumerian workers (the guys who
> > > built the ziggurats, dams, walls, etc.), with
> > > the amount increasing as the position increased.
> > > common laborers got about a quart per day, and
> > > foremen and managers got up to about a gallon.
> >
> > That's only good sense. No wonder they got so much
> > accomplished.
> >
> > > so the brewing of beer actually seems to have been
> > > the catalyst that impelled ancient people to develop
> > > civilization, and all the "progress" that goes along
> > > with it!
> >
> > Beer makes you strong!
> >
> >
> > (science proves it)

> From: "Dante Rosati" <dante.interport@...>
> To: <metatuning@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 7:36 AM
> Subject: RE: [metatuning] drinking as an investment
>
>
> thats funny. as far as I can tell, beer makes
> you fat, drunk and stoopit.

when drunk to excess, yes, of course it does that.
but drunk in moderation, beer is simply a nourishing
drink.

to compare those Sumerian payment rations to
modern styles of drinking: the common laborer's
quart-per-day ration works out to 2.67 12-ounce
bottles or cans of beer, and the manager's
gallon-per-day ration equals 10.67 12-oz cans.

so there you have it -- the laborers got to
have a couple of refreshing beers after work with
their dinner, while retaining their slim athletic
build (consider the hard work they had to do in the
hot Sumerian sun) ... and the managers got to become
"fat, drunk, and stoopit" with nearly a 12-pack.

-monz

🔗X. J. Scott <xjscott@...>

7/23/2002 9:13:05 AM

> so there you have it -- the laborers got to
> have a couple of refreshing beers after work with
> their dinner, while retaining their slim athletic
> build (consider the hard work they had to do in the
> hot Sumerian sun) ... and the managers got to become
> "fat, drunk, and stoopit" with nearly a 12-pack.

> -monz

hee hee hee

we love monz!

ya

🔗graham@...

7/23/2002 9:33:00 AM

In-Reply-To: <002701c23261$38cd7280$af48620c@...>
monz wrote:

> to compare those Sumerian payment rations to
> modern styles of drinking: the common laborer's
> quart-per-day ration works out to 2.67 12-ounce
> bottles or cans of beer, and the manager's
> gallon-per-day ration equals 10.67 12-oz cans.

If it was intended for nourishment rather than intoxication it may also
have had a lower alcohol content than modern beer.

> so there you have it -- the laborers got to
> have a couple of refreshing beers after work with
> their dinner, while retaining their slim athletic
> build (consider the hard work they had to do in the
> hot Sumerian sun) ... and the managers got to become
> "fat, drunk, and stoopit" with nearly a 12-pack.

Or they passed it on to their household servants, or were less likely to
catch typhoid from contaminated water.

Graham