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🔗X. J. Scott <xjscott@...>

7/12/2002 2:58:25 PM

Chris,

> Yeah, quite honestly, I don't think this is a good poster-case for
> police brutality. It's just gonna backfire, because the police will
> be found not to have done much wrong.

Punching teens in the face is OK?

Huh. General feeling here seems to be that the negro DID have
it coming.

I guess I don't agree.

- Jeff

🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

7/12/2002 3:53:13 PM

Jeff!
Peoples reaction to this is so pathetic I can only imagine when they
start to "punishing" people in droves they will look the other way and
assume they had it coming. we know little about it either way. we do know
that others have complained about this officer and have had trouble with
him-unless you want to believe that they all tried to kick where he probably
has very little. yawn
We are surrounded by the manic claiming they are innocent, either by by
ignorance ( their media tells them so) or by hiring (taxes) others to do
their criminal acts for them (politicians). And they do a very dirty job of
it.
Cocteau in his film Orpheus understood that the greatest crime in the
underworld was "innocence"
Too often we let the "news " decide what is important and what we should
direct our attention to. They have there own agenda
All this is a big diversion from Bush's and Cheneys Criminal acts, its
companies, the energy crisis, the foreknowledge of 9/11, the subversion of
the voting rights of the others. etc. etc. And for those with pensions,
think about how much you lost recently and are going to continue to lose.
the hell with some kid and him driving without a license they have robbed
you and have placed your children in debt to line their pockets. And their
pockets have never been FATTER!

"X. J. Scott" wrote:

> Chris,
>
> > Yeah, quite honestly, I don't think this is a good poster-case for
> > police brutality. It's just gonna backfire, because the police will
> > be found not to have done much wrong.
>
> Punching teens in the face is OK?
>
> Huh. General feeling here seems to be that the negro DID have
> it coming.
>
> I guess I don't agree.
>
> - Jeff

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🔗X. J. Scott <xjscott@...>

7/14/2002 11:00:31 AM

Wow!

🔗David Beardsley <db@...>

7/14/2002 11:17:49 AM

----- Original Message -----
From: "X. J. Scott" <xjscott@...>

> Wow!

Here's another: http://www.cnvill.demon.co.uk/mfbrooks.htm

Nice guy.

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🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

7/14/2002 12:27:27 PM

Well at least he had to pay to be abused by "the best"

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> > Wow!
>
> Here's another: http://www.cnvill.demon.co.uk/mfbrooks.htm
>
> Nice guy.
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🔗David Beardsley <db@...>

7/14/2002 12:39:43 PM

Ha! He got his money's worth!

dB

----- Original Message -----
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> Well at least he had to pay to be abused by "the best"
>
> David Beardsley wrote:
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
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> >
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🔗jdstarrett <jstarret@...>

7/14/2002 8:04:07 PM

--- In metatuning@y..., "X. J. Scott" <xjscott@e...> wrote:
> Chris,
>
> > Yeah, quite honestly, I don't think this is a good poster-case for
> > police brutality. It's just gonna backfire, because the police will
> > be found not to have done much wrong.
>
> Punching teens in the face is OK?
>
> Huh. General feeling here seems to be that the negro DID have
> it coming.
>
> I guess I don't agree.
>
> - Jeff

I really would have to see the film to know what to think. I know if someone grabbed my balls, whether he was handcuffed or not, I would hit him in the face if I could. I certainly wouldn't fault a cop for doing what I think is reasonable, but I don't know if his balls were grabbed or not.

John Starrett

🔗Afmmjr@...

7/14/2002 8:18:21 PM

John, wouldn't handcuffs preclude his reaching behind and grabbing anything?
I have trouble with this possibility and think jury members will as well.

Also, I couldn't tell from the footage and maybe someone knows. Was the guy
that punched the kid the same guy that slammed him down on the car (only
switching places).

best, Johnny

🔗jdstarrett <jstarret@...>

7/14/2002 9:30:37 PM

--- In metatuning@y..., Afmmjr@a... wrote:
> John, wouldn't handcuffs preclude his reaching behind and grabbing anything?
> I have trouble with this possibility and think jury members will as well.
>
> Also, I couldn't tell from the footage and maybe someone knows. Was the guy
> that punched the kid the same guy that slammed him down on the car (only
> switching places).
>
> best, Johnny

Yes, I find this very suspicious. I am a natural cynic, so I would have to see some pretty convincing evidence before I believed this highly improbable scenario. My point was that if this is indeed the case, I would have punched him, and wouldn't blame the cop for doing the same. Unfortunately the LA cops have a deservedly horrible reputation going back decades, and no one seems interested in shaking things up in the department. Remember police chief Daryl Gates saying that all drug users should be shot in the street without trial?

John Starrett

🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

7/14/2002 10:49:16 PM

If the cop doesn't know how to prevent his balls from being grabbed by a handcuffed person, then he is really incompetent and should be dismissed immediately.

jdstarrett wrote:

>
>
> I really would have to see the film to know what to think. I know if someone grabbed my balls, whether he was handcuffed or not, I would hit him in the face if I could. I certainly wouldn't fault a cop for doing what I think is reasonable, but I don't know if his balls were grabbed or not.
>
> John Starrett
>
>

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🔗Afmmjr@...

7/15/2002 7:51:35 AM

In a message dated 7/15/02 12:31:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
jstarret@... writes:

> Unfortunately the LA cops have a deservedly horrible reputation going back
> decades, and no one seems interested in shaking things up in the
> department. Remember police chief Daryl Gates saying that all drug users
> should be shot in the street without trial?
>
>

John, keep in mind this is not LAPD but some smaller area north named
Inglewood (sp.) Johnny

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🔗David Beardsley <db@...>

7/15/2002 8:01:27 AM

----- Original Message -----
From: <Afmmjr@...>

> In a message dated 7/15/02 12:31:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> jstarret@... writes:
>
>
> > Unfortunately the LA cops have a deservedly horrible reputation going
back
> > decades, and no one seems interested in shaking things up in the
> > department. Remember police chief Daryl Gates saying that all drug users
> > should be shot in the street without trial?
>
> John, keep in mind this is not LAPD but some smaller area north named
> Inglewood (sp.) Johnny

South.

http://mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?country=US&address=&city=Inglewood&state=ca
&zipcode=&homesubmit.x=47&homesubmit.y=13

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🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

7/15/2002 3:22:10 PM

west not north just so you know

Afmmjr@... wrote:

>
> John, keep in mind this is not LAPD but some smaller area north named
> Inglewood (sp.) Johnny
>
>

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🔗David Beardsley <db@...>

7/15/2002 4:06:00 PM

Thanks for clearing that up Kraig.

dB

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From: "Kraig Grady" <kraiggrady@...>

> west not north just so you know
>
> Afmmjr@... wrote:
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> > John, keep in mind this is not LAPD but some smaller area north named
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🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

7/15/2002 4:40:29 PM

Its about 2 miles from where i do my radio show. just east of the airport

David Beardsley wrote:

> Thanks for clearing that up Kraig.
>
> dB
>
> -

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🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

1/26/2003 9:31:15 AM

the hitler, oops the history channel, ran a special on this event just the other day ( the KKK turkey shoot) i caught a lunch as i don't have a TV.
One of my co -workers yelled. Damn right should have killed all the commies. this from a democrat.
that even the feds counldn't ( nor really wanted to i suppose)
happen to have a copy of pentagate fall into my lap.
another compelling piece of evidence about a plane NOT hitting the pentagon is the color of the flash of the explosion does not match those of any other plane crash (fuel) fire and the fire dept. does not use WATER TO PUT OUT GASOLINE FIRES
they use foam

Christopher Bailey wrote:

> regarding: scary precedent to the USA PATRIOT act.
>
> January 16, 2003
> By Signe Waller
>

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🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

1/26/2003 9:41:27 AM

shouldn't try to type before coffee

Kraig Grady wrote:

> the hitler, oops the history channel, ran a special on this event just the other day ( the KKK turkey shoot) i caught at lunch as i don't have a TV.
> One of my co -workers yelled. Damn right should have killed all the commies. this from a democrat.
> that even the feds couldn't ( nor really wanted to i suppose) convict them in federal court shows where we are

>
> happen to have a copy of pentagate fall into my lap.
> another compelling piece of evidence about a plane NOT hitting the pentagon is the color of the flash of the explosion does not match those of any other plane crash (fuel) fire and the fire dept. does not use WATER TO PUT OUT GASOLINE FIRES
> they use foam
>
> Christopher Bailey wrote:
>
> > regarding: scary precedent to the USA PATRIOT act.
> >
> > January 16, 2003
> > By Signe Waller
> >
>
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🔗Carl Lumma <clumma@...> <clumma@...>

1/26/2003 9:25:10 PM

Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@a...> wrote:
> the hitler, oops the history channel,

:)

"Next up, Hitler's secret snack cake confectionary --
are its remains located under a petrol station in
present-day Berlin??"

-Carl

🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

2/12/2003 10:54:39 PM

CB!

Christopher Bailey wrote:

> >> G. W. Bush, along with Rumsfeld, Powell, & Rice, is in my humble
> >> opinion, the greatest threat to global stability & peace since
> >> the height of the cold war.
> >>
>
> >Oh, humble one, might there be room in your list for Bin Laden?
>
> Oh yeah, and going into an all -out war with Iraq is clearly the most
> EFFICIENT and sensible way of dealing with THAT problem.

I thought the swiss proved that the last tape was a fake. if he is even
alive
in the end, he doesn't have to be.

>

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🔗Afmmjr@...

2/13/2003 8:58:10 AM

In a message dated 2/13/03 2:12:55 AM Eastern Standard Time,
kraiggrady@... writes:

> I thought the swiss proved that the last tape was a fake. if he is even
> alive
> in the end, he doesn't have to be.
>
>

So, you are saying the Swiss have found some holes in the tape? Hasn't made
it to any media I've experienced yet. Pins and needles everywhere. Hard to
know how relevant Iraq is to an "inevitable" WMD attack by al Queda.

Johnny

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🔗David Beardsley <db@...>

2/13/2003 9:03:42 AM

----- Original Message -----
From: <Afmmjr@...>

> In a message dated 2/13/03 2:12:55 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> kraiggrady@... writes:
>
>
> > I thought the swiss proved that the last tape was a fake. if he is even
> > alive
> > in the end, he doesn't have to be.
>
> So, you are saying the Swiss have found some holes in the tape? Hasn't
made
> it to any media I've experienced yet. Pins and needles everywhere. Hard
to
> know how relevant Iraq is to an "inevitable" WMD attack by al Queda.

http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030213-093506-8792r

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🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

2/13/2003 11:48:02 PM

actuallty it was on the drudge report a couple of times . even the recent one
they say there is not enough data to say if it is real or not.

Afmmjr@... wrote:

> In a message dated 2/13/03 2:12:55 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> kraiggrady@... writes:
>
> > I thought the swiss proved that the last tape was a fake. if he is even
> > alive
> > in the end, he doesn't have to be.
> >
> >
>
> So, you are saying the Swiss have found some holes in the tape? Hasn't made
> it to any media I've experienced yet. Pins and needles everywhere. Hard to
> know how relevant Iraq is to an "inevitable" WMD attack by al Queda.

propaganda, they are much more patient than we are

>
>
> Johnny
>
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