Re: going offline, etc.

This is a reply at metatuning to a MakeMicroMusic post

idealordid wrote:

> Ugh... this is a pity. I had lunch with Joe Benzola yesterday and we
> were talking about how your microtonal music is so fresh and lacking
> in the absurd obsessive and combative geekery which seems to rule
> this domain. Sadly, I think that the realm has attracted people who
> are not really musicians, but are nerd/geek/obsessive-compulsive
> types that would rather argue about notions of purity and detail
> rather than getting down to the real work - that of rocking the
> house.

Okay, Jeff. In order to clear up any confusion

Who is absurd?

Who is obsessive?

Who is combative?

Who is a geek?

Who isn't really a musician?

Who are you directing that offensive word at?

Who is mentally ill?

What's "sad" about this realm attracting geeks or the mentally ill?
Aren't geeks and the mentally ill people too?

Who would rather argue about purity and detail than get down to real work?

> The Internet makes these absurd pathetic combative types seem bigger
> and more important than they really are - the proof is in the
> pudding - the music - not the texts - not the diagrams - not the long-
> winded explanations and diagrams.

Are you suggesting any connection between these absurd pathetic combative
types and those of us who post text and diagrams?

Graham

maybe harrington is is a mclaren alais.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: graham@... [mailto:graham@...]
> Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 2:05 PM
> To: jeff@...; metatuning@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [metatuning] Re: going offline, etc.
>
>
> This is a reply at metatuning to a MakeMicroMusic post
>
> idealordid wrote:
>
> > Ugh... this is a pity. I had lunch with Joe Benzola yesterday and we
> > were talking about how your microtonal music is so fresh and lacking
> > in the absurd obsessive and combative geekery which seems to rule
> > this domain. Sadly, I think that the realm has attracted people who
> > are not really musicians, but are nerd/geek/obsessive-compulsive
> > types that would rather argue about notions of purity and detail
> > rather than getting down to the real work - that of rocking the
> > house.
>
> Okay, Jeff. In order to clear up any confusion
>
> Who is absurd?
>
> Who is obsessive?
>
> Who is combative?
>
> Who is a geek?
>
> Who isn't really a musician?
>
> Who are you directing that offensive word at?
>
> Who is mentally ill?
>
> What's "sad" about this realm attracting geeks or the mentally ill?
> Aren't geeks and the mentally ill people too?
>
> Who would rather argue about purity and detail than get down to real work?
>
> > The Internet makes these absurd pathetic combative types seem bigger
> > and more important than they really are - the proof is in the
> > pudding - the music - not the texts - not the diagrams - not the long-
> > winded explanations and diagrams.
>
> Are you suggesting any connection between these absurd pathetic combative
> types and those of us who post text and diagrams?
>
> Graham
>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Dante Rosati" <dante.interport@...>

> maybe harrington is is a mclaren alais.

Nah, he's been stirring it up in rec.music.classical.contemporary
for years. But I can why you'd draw the comparison!

* David Beardsley
* http://biink.com
* http://mp3.com/davidbeardsley

--- In metatuning@y..., graham@m... wrote:
> This is a reply at metatuning to a MakeMicroMusic post
>
> idealordid wrote:
>
> > Ugh... this is a pity. I had lunch with Joe Benzola yesterday
and we
> > were talking about how your microtonal music is so fresh and
lacking
> > in the absurd obsessive and combative geekery which seems to rule
> > this domain. Sadly, I think that the realm has attracted people
who
> > are not really musicians, but are nerd/geek/obsessive-compulsive
> > types that would rather argue about notions of purity and detail
> > rather than getting down to the real work - that of rocking the
> > house.
>
> Okay, Jeff. In order to clear up any confusion
>
> Who is absurd?
>
> Who is obsessive?
>
> Who is combative?
>
> Who is a geek?
>
> Who isn't really a musician?
>
> Who are you directing that offensive word at?
>
> Who is mentally ill?
>
> What's "sad" about this realm attracting geeks or the mentally
ill?
> Aren't geeks and the mentally ill people too?
>
> Who would rather argue about purity and detail than get down to
real work?
>
> > The Internet makes these absurd pathetic combative types seem
bigger
> > and more important than they really are - the proof is in the
> > pudding - the music - not the texts - not the diagrams - not the
long-
> > winded explanations and diagrams.
>
> Are you suggesting any connection between these absurd pathetic
combative
> types and those of us who post text and diagrams?
>
> Graham

i don't get why you posted this here, rather than somewhere the
idealordid would read it.

--- In metatuning@y..., David Beardsley <db@b...> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dante Rosati" <dante.interport@r...>
>
> > maybe harrington is is a mclaren alais.
>
> Nah, he's been stirring it up in rec.music.classical.contemporary
> for years. But I can why you'd draw the comparison!

Can't we all just get along? Seriously, the world needs both composers and theorists, just as it needs both mathematicians and engineers, AC and DC and so on. It even needs combative types and troublemaking stirrers. The important thing to remember is that we are all different aspects of the creative force, and all this is an illusion, the dance of Maya. No, wait, the important thing to remember is that we are all created in God's image, and that Jesus Christ is each of our own personal savior......, no, wait,..... the important thing is to get on with it! OK, I got it right that time. I am sure if Dan makes some new music we will hear about it somehow.

John Starrett

> Can't we all just get along?

>It even needs combative types and
> troublemaking stirrers.

but if you "get along" with troublemakers, then they are no longer
troublemakers, and in your world, they are necessary, so best to not get
along with them so they can fulfill their mission?

>

Graham and all,

Public thanks to all of you for posting here instead of MMM or any other list. I was away most of the day or would have made the suggestion I just recently did, on MMM, to move here. I appreciate your consideration and all the rest.

As for Paul's comment about why not post it where he'd read it, I will write him offline to let him know the commentary is here, in case he wants to read it. I don't hazard a guess at this point...

Regards,
Jon (the increasingly reluctant ListMom of MMM)

--- In metatuning@y..., "Dante Rosati" <dante.interport@r...> wrote:
> > Can't we all just get along?

And the answer is no.

> >It even needs combative types and
> > troublemaking stirrers.
> but if you "get along" with troublemakers, then they are no longer
> troublemakers, and in your world, they are necessary, so best to not > get along with them so they can fulfill their mission?

Right you are!

John Starrett

there is just the right amount of troublemakers and combative types.
-after a paraphrase of cage quoting suzuki

Dante Rosati wrote:

> > Can't we all just get along?
>
> >It even needs combative types and
> > troublemaking stirrers.
>
> but if you "get along" with troublemakers, then they are no longer
> troublemakers, and in your world, they are necessary, so best to not get
> along with them so they can fulfill their mission?
>
>

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