I am a racist

Yo!

So, Condoleeza Rice played a Brahms Concerto with Yo Yo
Ma in Washington. Apparently she squeezes in these
world class performances when isn't figuring out how to
go after terrorists and bring on world peace, or
learning obscure languages. She looks like a waif of a
thing, all smiles and blushing humility and shyness.
But she probably knows jujitsu and could kick the asses
of everyone on this list simultaneously! Let's see some
action movie Asian girl do that! Bring on the white
girls who are even 1/1000 the woman she is! Ha! That's
right! There are none!!

CONDOLEEZA RICE IS THE HOTTEST BABE IN THE WORLD
TODAY!!!!

She makes Xena look like Barbie.

BLACK WOMEN KICK ASS!!

- Jeff

--- In metatuning@y..., "X. J .Scott" <xjscott@e...> wrote:
> Yo!
>
> So, Condoleeza Rice played a Brahms Concerto with Yo Yo
> Ma in Washington. Apparently she squeezes in these
> world class performances when isn't figuring out how to
> go after terrorists and bring on world peace, or
> learning obscure languages. She looks like a waif of a
> thing, all smiles and blushing humility and shyness.
> But she probably knows jujitsu and could kick the asses
> of everyone on this list simultaneously! Let's see some
> action movie Asian girl do that! Bring on the white
> girls who are even 1/1000 the woman she is! Ha! That's
> right! There are none!!
>
> CONDOLEEZA RICE IS THE HOTTEST BABE IN THE WORLD
> TODAY!!!!
>
> She makes Xena look like Barbie.
>
> BLACK WOMEN KICK ASS!!
>
> - Jeff

Bob:
Chuckle...yeah, so I guess you're a black supremist, huh, bro? Guess
that means you shouldn't complain too much about white supremists,
maybe? I don't like either one. Guess, I'm a "racist" in some sense,
too, though, since I think there are things blacks, men and women,
generally have over whites. But we could reverse that for other
things.

In other words, apparently like you, I don't buy that there are no
differences between "races" or that there are none between sexes
either. I say, "Vive la difference!" (However, most blacks in this
country aren't really. They're mixed, so how do we deal with that,
bro?)

> Chuckle...yeah, so I guess you're a black supremist, huh,
bro?

Uh not really. The supremism thing is too radical for
me though I will admit that American Indians are
smarter, stronger and better looking than all other
races. If only we could have had immunity to smallpox
and influenza...

> Guess that means you shouldn't complain too much about white
> supremists, maybe?

Am I complaining about them? Used to live down the
street from Tom Metzger. Had a good friend who was a
full-blooded Yaqui Indian who was best buds with
Metzgers son and would hang out at their house. He said
that old Tom and he got along great. He had no idea he
was a supremist. Turns out he is not a supremist --
he's a separatist and feels it's an important
distinction.

I guess I'd say:

If people want to create and live in ethnically pure
areas, I think it's foolish.

If people think their race or culture or baseball team
is the very best, that's fine. Normal pride, part of
human nature and relatively harmless.

If someone wants to exterminate or commit violence
against members of the race they don't like because
of their race, I have a serious problem with that.

> I don't like either one. Guess, I'm a "racist" in some sense,
> too, though, since I think there are things blacks, men and
> women, generally have over whites. But we could reverse that
> for other things.

That is why I said 'I am a racist'. I think the races
exist and are different at least in appearance.
Likewise, I think members of one culture are likely to
have world views and priorities that differ from
members of other cultures. I think this is all fine.
The danger exists when someone starts to use this to
draw conclusions a priori about people that live in
their community without getting to know them. That
'prejudice' comes naturally since we humans have a
brain that works by forming associations and is great
at pattern recognition. We need to know that goes on
and overcome it by giving everyone an equal
opportunity.

> I say, "Vive la difference!"

This is a great attitude and really the key.
Appreciation for Multiculturalism centers on the
recognition that other cultures exist and have
different characteristics.

> (However, most blacks in this country aren't really. They're
> mixed, so how do we deal with that, bro?)

What on earth do you mean?

- Jeff

>If someone wants to exterminate or commit violence
>against members of the race they don't like because
>of their race, I have a serious problem with that.

Me too.

>That is why I said 'I am a racist'.

Acknowledging facts does not make you a racist. For
that you have to hate some race.

>Likewise, I think members of one culture are likely to
>have world views and priorities that differ from
>members of other cultures. I think this is all fine.
>The danger exists when someone starts to use this to
>draw conclusions a priori about people that live in
>their community without getting to know them. That
>'prejudice' comes naturally since we humans have a
>brain that works by forming associations and is great
>at pattern recognition. We need to know that goes on
>and overcome it by giving everyone an equal
>opportunity.

We also have a brain that allows reason, and friendship,
and love. I've never shown an iota of prejudice against
anyone because of their race. The idea that my 'pattern
matcher' is out of control, or is overzealous with
respect to the law of probability, is ridiculous.

-Carl

> We also have a brain that allows reason, and friendship,
> and love. I've never shown an iota of prejudice against
> anyone because of their race. The idea that my 'pattern
> matcher' is out of control, or is overzealous with
> respect to the law of probability, is ridiculous.

I do travel in groups of primarily my own race. This is
something we're not in control of, really. We can go
out and try to make a 'black friend', but _that_ would be
prejudiced. I don't know if this link came from here...

http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2002/04/rauch.htm

-Carl

Carl, that article is one of the coolest things I've ever read on the
subject; no, I think THE coolest! Shows how a lot of political
rhetoric that pretends to "prove" this and that collective motive
based on what seems to be obvious social evidence can, and I think
usually are, way off base.

A lot of people need to take stock again and quit accusing. We all
need to start think about what is really going to work. Accusations
just tick people off, people who are often innocent of the charges in
spite of all appearances to the contrary.

Cheers,

Bob

--- In metatuning@y..., "clumma" <carl@l...> wrote:
> > We also have a brain that allows reason, and friendship,
> > and love. I've never shown an iota of prejudice against
> > anyone because of their race. The idea that my 'pattern
> > matcher' is out of control, or is overzealous with
> > respect to the law of probability, is ridiculous.
>
> I do travel in groups of primarily my own race. This is
> something we're not in control of, really. We can go
> out and try to make a 'black friend', but _that_ would be
> prejudiced. I don't know if this link came from here...
>
> http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2002/04/rauch.htm
>
> -Carl