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Maneris and manners

🔗Marc Jones <tuning@...>

2/20/2002 10:50:52 PM

On 2/20/02 4:38 PM, "jacky_ligon" <jacky_ligon@...> wrote:

>> That's pretty cool. I didn't know that Marc had worked with these
>> guys.
>
> he did???
>

Who? As far as I know, I haven't worked with anyone you guys have ever
heard of.

> No wonder the Maneris enjoy working with Marc. I'll have to
> congratulate and thank him for all.
>

I just met Joe Maneri at the Microthon. He liked my piece a lot. We got
into this whole talk about how I've sort of felt out overly sharp and flat
notes and invested myself in them emotionally, and in a real jazz-cat tone,
started going on with "NO man YOU put yer SOUUUUL into it..."

How did it get around that I've been working with them???

On 2/20/02 5:01 PM, "paulerlich" <paul@...> wrote:

>> BTW, no offence to Marc, but since when did he create the pitch
>> continuum!
>

If you look here:

http://www.ixpres.com/interval/dict/marc-edolist.htm

...you might guess around 1990. >:)

No offence to Dan, but since when did anyone ever call it INFINITY EQUAL :-P
I didn't invent notes either, but how many people think of EVERY NOTE THEY
PLAY as playing in ZERO EQUAL?!

Alright seriously it's just part of a whole meditative thing:

1. inf-ET - to consider every possible note in a geometric continuum

2. 0-ET - to consider every note as a function of this, which also yields a
high and low silence

3. Low or "empty" silence - Frequency of 0 Hz, period of eternity.
...serves as a focus on the blank slate, no sound, no music, FOREVER.

4. High or "full" silence - Frequency of inf Hz, period of instantaneity.
...serves as a focus of the additions of all frequencies, ALL sounds, that
whatever you do or don't do is going to become a part of.

It's not all that far off from Frank Zappa's concept of "The Big Note"
comprised of all sound of all time everywhere, constantly growing.

BAAAAA HAA HAAA HAAAAAAAAA

The whole idea is, I came up with most of the stuff that people on the lists
talk about. I came up with it on my own, over the last 15 years or so.
Outside of some people I worked with awhile back, I've been almost
completely on my own until recently, like last year, when I started posting.

And like the disclaimer on the Marc-defs page says, I didn't rattle off my
cave dwelling vocabulary to Monz to try to force it onto anyone else and if
anything, if there are simpler names for things I have to struggle to
explain non-mathematically, I'd like to know about them. AND in the rare
event that I might be scratching some not quite thought of corner of
mathematical thought, I'm offering my terminology royalty free as in all
cases I've tried to come up with names for things which actually make sense.

It's taken me a lot of effort to get out amidst the public in what little I
have, between playing in Nov 2000, my first concert in 17 years, the first
time I've ever played anything original in public, trying to relate my work
to anything anyone else has done and vice versa... A lot of my terminology
goes back to 1990 when Fred and I were sitting around trying not to talk in
numbers all the time. And it's only now in the last couple of weeks that
I've really tied up the ends necessary to go into production mode and be
ready to start putting out CDs on a constant basis.

> i think jacky was just joking about the marc connection. and i
> mentioned marc because the pitch continuum just came up with
> reference to him. ya know, just being topical?
>

So anyway, I'm finally getting around to catching up on metatuning posts.
Are there any other lists on which I'm being talked about? I'd like to get
in on the conversations if I can.

Half joking but half not, you know, I *am* here, you can talk to me. I mean
especially if you have any questions about the way *I* talk about the way
*I* do things. No offense taken. But like I've said, the point of the
whole story lately is that NOBODY REALLY KNOWS what the hell I've been doing
in the last 10 years or so!!!

Much less me.

Marc