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A comically wide vibrato

🔗jdstarrett <jstarret@...>

2/13/2002 8:40:33 PM

Apropos our recent discussion of vibrato, I have uploaded an example
of an extremely wide vibrato to the files section.

John Starrett

🔗clumma <carl@...>

2/15/2002 6:08:06 PM

>Apropos our recent discussion of vibrato, I have uploaded an example
>of an extremely wide vibrato to the files section.

zowie!

Actually, aside from the obnoxious vibrato, this excerpt has good
performing energy, and sound. What's it from?

-Cral

🔗jdstarrett <jstarret@...>

2/16/2002 6:27:06 PM

--- In metatuning@y..., "clumma" <carl@l...> wrote:
> >Apropos our recent discussion of vibrato, I have uploaded an
example
> >of an extremely wide vibrato to the files section.
>
> zowie!
>
> Actually, aside from the obnoxious vibrato, this excerpt has good
> performing energy, and sound. What's it from?
>
> -Cral

Hey Cral, do you know Kronos? The group is Il Giardino Armonico, my
favorite ensemble. The job they do on Vivaldi is incredible.

John Starrett

🔗clumma <carl@...>

2/16/2002 9:07:58 PM

>>>Apropos our recent discussion of vibrato, I have uploaded an
>>>example of an extremely wide vibrato to the files section.
>>
>>zowie!
>>
>>Actually, aside from the obnoxious vibrato, this excerpt has good
>>performing energy, and sound. What's it from?
>>
>> -Cral
>
>Hey Cral, do you know Kronos?

?

>The group is Il Giardino Armonico, my
>favorite ensemble. The job they do on Vivaldi
>is incredible.

I got "Il Proteo, double and triple concertos" when
it came out (I was in college at the time). I thought
it was some o' the best vivaldi I'd ever heard.
Haven't listened to it since then. Maybe I should
get it out...

-Carl

🔗jdstarrett <jstarret@...>

2/18/2002 7:32:44 PM

> >The group is Il Giardino Armonico, my
> >favorite ensemble. The job they do on Vivaldi
> >is incredible.
>
> I got "Il Proteo, double and triple concertos" when
> it came out (I was in college at the time). I thought
> it was some o' the best vivaldi I'd ever heard.
> Haven't listened to it since then. Maybe I should
> get it out...
>
> -Carl

Their Four Seasons is *the* definitive version as far as I am
concerned. Yup, you'd better listen to at least that one.

John Starrett

🔗clumma <carl@...>

2/19/2002 9:50:57 PM

>>>The group is Il Giardino Armonico, my
>>>favorite ensemble. The job they do on Vivaldi
>>>is incredible.
>>
/.../
> Their Four Seasons is *the* definitive version as far as I am
> concerned. Yup, you'd better listen to at least that one.

I'd love to, but I find it hard to justify buying a fourth
4 seasons! I have:

Ton Koopman - Amsterdam
----excellent all-around

Harnoncourt - Concentus Musicus Wien
----incredible listen-in-the-dark performance ruined by
a very compressed, old recording.

Biondi - Europa Galante
----probably my fav. ... the most virtuosic thing I've
heard in a while ... great recording (were the instruments
individually mic'd? ... huge revolution in the wings with
this technique for classical music, anyhow...)

-Carl

🔗jdstarrett <jstarret@...>

2/21/2002 5:40:29 PM

--- In metatuning@y..., "clumma" <carl@l...> wrote:
> >>>The group is Il Giardino Armonico, my
> >>>favorite ensemble. The job they do on Vivaldi
> >>>is incredible.
> >>
> /.../
> > Their Four Seasons is *the* definitive version as far as I am
> > concerned. Yup, you'd better listen to at least that one.
>
> I'd love to, but I find it hard to justify buying a fourth
> 4 seasons! I have:
>
> Ton Koopman - Amsterdam
> ----excellent all-around
>
> Harnoncourt - Concentus Musicus Wien
> ----incredible listen-in-the-dark performance ruined by
> a very compressed, old recording.
>
> Biondi - Europa Galante
> ----probably my fav. ... the most virtuosic thing I've
> heard in a while ... great recording (were the instruments
> individually mic'd? ... huge revolution in the wings with
> this technique for classical music, anyhow...)
>
> -Carl

I'll post an excerpt tonight to the files section for your enjoyment.

John Starrett

🔗clumma <carl@...>

2/21/2002 6:16:59 PM

>I'll post an excerpt tonight to the files section
>for your enjoyment.

Thanks, John, that's astounding!

Have you heard this?

>>Biondi - Europa Galante

I can post a sample when I get my copy back from
loan.

-Carl

🔗jdstarrett <jstarret@...>

2/21/2002 6:39:12 PM

--- In metatuning@y..., "clumma" <carl@l...> wrote:
> >I'll post an excerpt tonight to the files section
> >for your enjoyment.
>
> Thanks, John, that's astounding!
>
> Have you heard this?
>
> >>Biondi - Europa Galante
>
> I can post a sample when I get my copy back from
> loan.
>
> -Carl

You know I want to! Please do post it.

John Starrett

🔗jonszanto <JSZANTO@...>

2/21/2002 6:51:09 PM

--- In metatuning@y..., "clumma" <carl@l...> wrote:
> >>Biondi - Europa Galante

Ooh - rippin' em' off? :)

But seriously, since everyone is still talking about the most
recorded piece in the literature, how come no one mentioned the CD
done by Gidon Kremer and his Kremerata, that paired Vivaldi's with
Astor Piazolla's own "Four Seasons".

It is a very cool shiny digital music disc, it is.

Cheers,
Jon

🔗Afmmjr@...

2/22/2002 5:59:45 AM

In a message dated 2/21/02 10:06:50 PM Eastern Standard Time,
JSZANTO@... writes:

>

Gidon Kremer is my favorite modern violinist. Once, taking good advantage of
some free Carnegie Hall tickets, there was such incredible listening, that my
ex and I had to leave after intermission. It was so good that a single half
was all I could take. My brain, dopamine level, my skin was firing off
rockets and I remain inspired to this day. (It was about 8 years ago.)

Kermer appears to use a different number of hair strings from his bow for
each and every musical tone. It's as if he can calculate how many bow hairs
are most appropriate for his playing of every single tone. This technique
allows him to color his music more so than anyone I have ever heard.

The bassoon has historically been notorious as having a different tone for
each pitch. Modern players have learned to homogenize their sounds. The Fox
bassoon company in Indiana goofed earlier with instruments that has equalized
tone, but they quickly learned that it was to extreme: there was no
personality.

Gidon Kremer was the ultimate in personality, whether for Mozart or Prokofief.

Jon, thanks for the reminder.

best, Johnny Reinhard

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