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Re: [metatuning] INTP hallucinations & INTP music functioning

🔗monz <joemonz@...>

1/18/2002 12:10:00 PM

> From: X. J. Scott <xjscott@...>
> To: <metatuning@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 8:40 AM
> Subject: [metatuning] INTP hallucinations & INTP music functioning
>
>
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> > From: kris.peck@...
> >
> > On the other hand, one could ask the question "Could _Sgt
> > Pepper_ have been created without acid?" I'd like to think
> > "yes!" but of course we can only speculate...
>
> Hard to say. It would certainly have been different.
> But an album just as fantastic could have been done
> without acid, yes.

I'm not wanting to be an advocate of either side ... but I
do know a little something about the Beatles, and particularly
John Lennon, and I think he would have been the first one to
say "No, _Sgt. Pepper_ would *not* have happened without acid."
They themselves felt that the drugs they were taking at the time,
particularly LSD, were opening their minds up to a lot of
musical and other ideas that they wouldn't have thought of
otherwise.

But then again ... those four guys were an especially creative
bunch, so who knows?

-monz

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🔗paulerlich <paul@...>

1/18/2002 1:18:01 PM

--- In metatuning@y..., "X. J. Scott" <xjscott@e...> wrote:

> I agree with you Kris, I should have bmeen more clear.
> You are right that someone might read what I said and
> think that doing LSD can give you an INTP experience.

I might say that the "S" side is the problem with this analogy -- LSD
makes you hyper-aware of, and read meaning into, every tiny tidbit of
sensory input. INTPs tend to largely ignore sensory stimuli.

> There is a huge difference - LSD stimulates neural
> connections in the brain -- RANDOM ones.

What is your evidence for this? I'd like to see a single article that
backs this up. I don't doubt you, just want to see it, as I've never
heard this claim.

🔗clumma <carl@...>

1/18/2002 1:44:10 PM

> There is a huge difference - LSD stimulates neural
> connections in the brain -- RANDOM ones.

Doubtful. References?

> This screws you up. A side effect of new neural
> connections is time distortion, heightened awareness
> of colors, spatial distortions bordering on mild
> hallucinations.

That's an effect of over-stimulation of neurons in
certain parts of the brain, and/or inhibition of neurons
in other parts of the brain, depending on who you read.
Wether or not it's a "side" effect is open to interp.

-Carl