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XJS:
> INTPs can be the first up against the firing wall
> during purges.

This is reminding me of a great (and irrelevant) passage from Hitchhikers'
Guide to the Galaxy, but I can't seem to dredge it up at the moment...

>> Nikolai Tesla was the archetypal INTP.
>
> Of course A. Einstein is the one they like to highlight...
>Right! Both these cats were similar.

Actually I don't know a whole lot about Tesla's career, but I seem to
recall he did a lot of famous laboratory experiments. This would be a huge
difference between the two, since Einstein was famous for using "pure
thought" to solve problems and really didn't like being involved in
hands-on lab work. According to the articles, INTP's would tend more
toward this sort of abstraction, tending to neglect "practical" work and
concentrating on intellectual understanding of systems or phenomena.

>2. My friends who have tried LSD have described it to
me and it does not sound any different from being 'in
the flow'.
>I will note that, given this, I believe it is
especially dangerous for me to try drugs and I simply
don't do them.

Seriously, I think that mind-altering drugs merely damage the brain and the
reasoning process, only making the user *think* that s/he has gained some
kind of profound insight. While I can appreciate what the drug references
are trying to get at, I think the analogy is flawed. Stoned musicians
always *think* they are playing something amazing, but...

On the other hand, one could ask the question "Could _Sgt Pepper_ have been
created without acid?" I'd like to think "yes!" but of course we can only
speculate...

> INTPs are slow to communicate, but this does not mean that
> things are not simmering and smoldering inside. Although
> they appear aloof, snobbish, and disinterested in small talk
> at first, they are intriguing and, when comfortable, can be
> engaging conversationalists. At more advanced stages of a
> relationship, their rich imagination can "create an inferno
> of explosive and expressive affections"

In fact, I think my wife would strongly agree with this!

> He always chooses to listen to music which suits his
> current emotional state, be it aggression, warmth,
> excitement, relaxation or whatever. Hence, the emotional
> state is assumed to be an unchangeable, mysterious property
> of himself. It is easier to choose appropriate music than to
> attempt to influence this. People with introverted Feeling,
> Fi, however, will deliberately choose to listen to music
> which helps them change and improve their mood. INTPs could
> never do that. They feel an unpleasant sense of disharmony
> whenever a music style clashes with their emotional state.

This was one of many things in that article that startled me. I have tried
to explain this exact thing to my wife. I don't try to "set a mood"-- I
just follow along with whatever mood I already have going. If I'm anxious
or stressed out, I want to listen to Sonic Youth; my wife wants to listen
to Enya... (urgghh!)

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>>>Nikolai Tesla was the archetypal INTP.
>>
>>Of course A. Einstein is the one they like to highlight...
>>Right! Both these cats were similar.

Heads up! Did either of these folks take a MBTI test?
Reminds me of stuff like George Washington's IQ.

>Seriously, I think that mind-altering drugs merely damage the
>brain and the reasoning process, only making the user *think*
>that s/he has gained some kind of profound insight. While I
>can appreciate what the drug references are trying to get at,
>I think the analogy is flawed. Stoned musicians always *think*
>they are playing something amazing, but...

I have a hard time believing that the optimum state is not
straight, but I think there is little evidence that occasional
use of psychedelic drugs leads to any sort of damage.

There is also little evidence that occasional use leads to good
ideas. I could name a long list of folks who had good ideas on
drugs, but what's to say they wouldn't have had them otherwise?

There is little evidence that drugs lead to inflated claims of
greatness. Plenty of straight musicians play crap and think it's
great.

>On the other hand, one could ask the question "Could _Sgt Pepper_
>have been created without acid?" I'd like to think "yes!" but of
>course we can only speculate...

Some of the best music of the last century was done on drugs.
That's all we know.

-Carl

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> My not really I don't think -- Tesla confirmed his
> theories in the lab but he tended to get things right
> the first time.

He also got a lot wrong.

> Among his inventions:
>
> The AC motor
> The 3 phase electric generator
> The electric light
> The radio
> The Tesla coil of course

And Edison gets all the credit. For reasons I can't
understand, Tesla's work is always caught up in the
paranormal. Reports like Mark Twain and TR seeing
stuff which is impossible on visits to his lab. Clearly,
the guy was a genius. Why isn't he better-known?

> He is still the only person who understood ball
> lightning well enough to generate it in the laboratory.

It's not clear that ball lightning is the same stuff
that Tesla was generating.

-Carl

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