Occupying Indian lands

Jeff...while I certainly agree that the Europeans committed/commit
many evil acts in their conquest of this land (and, as you know, Indians
all over the world today are STILL being killed, and their lands taken
by force), I'm not sure the Indians look at all white folks as unwanted
occupiers...my understanding is that the people living in this
hemisphere were awaiting the return of what has been called the White
Brother, and were looking forward to a time of sharing and cooperation
betwen races. Of course, what they got was a disaster for their culture;
but, I do believe that the dream of the races coming together is still
alive, and that there are, indeed, some (how many?) ancestors of the
white occupiers who would like to see the Natives get their lands back,
in an honorable fashion. Indeed, I feel very strongly that this needs to
be addressed as soon as possible, politics or no...the USA has amassed
an incredible backlog of bad spiritual energies because of their
genocide, and I'm a big believer that the Universe balances itself to
correct such issues. And, of course, this is not any sort of new agey
belief...in fact, it's very very old age, and, I believe, exactly
correct. I do hope and pray that the European mind set that advocated
cultural genocide against tribal cultures is changed (which it has not,
for the most part), because it has caused (and still causes) much pain
and destruction throughout the world, wherever one group of folks
decides that they have the right to take the lands and resources of
another tribe or nation...that isn't good policy, no matter what country
practices it, and it goes against the basic core of Universal
morality...Hstick

--- In metatuning@y..., "Neil Haverstick" <STICK@U...> wrote:

> Indeed, I feel very strongly that this needs to
> be addressed as soon as possible, politics or no...the USA has
amassed
> an incredible backlog of bad spiritual energies because of their
> genocide, and I'm a big believer that the Universe balances itself
to
> correct such issues.

What exactly do you mean by "USA" and "backlog"? If you mean the
oppression of Native Americans in our generation (which is certainly
real), then is the word "genocide" really appropriate? Or do you
feel, rather, that one bears responsibility for the sins of one's
ancestors? If so, am I to feel angry at the children and
grandchildren of the German people of 1939? Personally, I feel that
such anger is the cause of most of the problems between peoples, and
perpetuates itself generation after generation because of precisely
such beliefs. Letting go of such beliefs, and instead treating one
another as well as we possibly can without jeapordizing our
immediate, living families, would, I believe, be a far better thing
to believe in.

> And, of course, this is not any sort of new agey
> belief...in fact, it's very very old age, and, I believe, exactly
> correct. I do hope and pray that the European mind set that
advocated
> cultural genocide against tribal cultures is changed.

Me too. I also hope that the "African mindset" that is currently (and
has historically) conducting total genocide against certain tribal
groups is changed. And the "Arab mindset" that continues, for over a
millenium, to practice religious and volitional genocide against
indigenous peoples in Africa, Southeast Asia, and elsewhere. And
the "Hindu mindset" that relegates to a certain caste of peoples the
status of "untouchably filthy". And the "Chinese mindset," and
the "Russian mindset," and so on . . . sorry, Neil, I don't believe
that it's a "European" mindset, I believe it's a very universal,
primal phenomenon that tends to afflict those with power. I hope that
society and government can evolve so that this phenomenon is kept
better and better in check, without depriving humankind of liberty
and humanity.

> because it has caused (and still causes) much pain
> and destruction throughout the world, wherever one group of folks
> decides that they have the right to take the lands and resources of
> another tribe or nation...

Virtually all lands and resources have passed from the hands of one
tribe or nation to another in the history of human civilization. Many
different tribes/nations could claim that any given set of lands or
resources were created by the Universe specifically for their
benefit, and no one else's. How do you determine who's right? Just
because tribe x lived in land y and time z, how can you claim
that "the Universe created land y exclusively for tribe x"?

Just wondering.

> that isn't good policy, no matter what country
> practices it, and it goes against the basic core of Universal
> morality...Hstick