Re: [MMM] New Piece: "Drift Dhikr"

Dave,

{you wrote...}
>I've just posted a new piece called "Drift Dhikr" ... Comments are welcome.

I wish I had something insightful, introspective, or analytical to say. But I just listened to it, and "Drift Dhikr" is just so cool. Tres cool.

Cheers,
Jon

Hey, that's good enough for me! Thanks, Jon.

- Dave

Jon Szanto wrote:
> I wish I had something insightful, introspective, or analytical to say. But > I just listened to it, and "Drift Dhikr" is just so cool. Tres cool.
> > Cheers,
> Jon

Can't say i reacted to it on the level of consonance /dissonance as it seemed to just be molting in a world of it's own.
Marcus hobbs with Erv and stephan tayor did a piece where they expanded a generator as a gliss and the music would proceed in different mos sclaes made from it, twisting and turning at various points.
I noticed you slid past a few 12 ET intervals, but maybe i shouldn't have blown your cover.

Jon Szanto wrote:

>Dave,
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>{you wrote...}
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>>I've just posted a new piece called "Drift Dhikr" ... Comments are welcome.
>> >>
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>I wish I had something insightful, introspective, or analytical to say. But >I just listened to it, and "Drift Dhikr" is just so cool. Tres cool.
>
>Cheers,
>Jon >
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--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@a...>
wrote:
> Can't say i reacted to it on the level of consonance /dissonance as it
> seemed to just be molting in a world of it's own.
> Marcus hobbs with Erv and stephan tayor did a piece where they
expanded
> a generator as a gliss and the music would proceed in different mos
> sclaes made from it, twisting and turning at various points.

OOOooo I've wanted to do a piece like that for a year now! Where the
whole scale glissandoes, but each note at a different rate dependent
on the generator? ...Yeah!

I was thinking of having this sort of light diatonic lounge music but
then have the scale fold into a 5 note mos, then a 2 note...then
jamming on a unison or something, I dunno.

But anyway, "Drift Dhikr" is really something else. I hear these
moments of convergence of sorts, but I lose all notion of where 1/1
was originally. The power of sinusoids. So how many individually
moving pitches are there, counting combination tones? 8?

Jacob

Hi Kraig. No cover to blow -- the only predetermined pitches in the entire piece is 3/2, which glides simultaneously up to 2/1 and down to 1/1. All the other pitches are generated sum and different tones that are continuously generated based on the gliding pitches in relation to 1/1, 2/1, and each other. So, essentially every pitch between 1/1 and 2/1 is heard at some point or other!

It's fun to set endpoints of the curves only and let the other pitches emerge once you set it in motion.

- Dave

Kraig Grady wrote:
> Can't say i reacted to it on the level of consonance /dissonance as it > seemed to just be molting in a world of it's own.
> Marcus hobbs with Erv and stephan tayor did a piece where they expanded > a generator as a gliss and the music would proceed in different mos > sclaes made from it, twisting and turning at various points.
> I noticed you slid past a few 12 ET intervals, but maybe i shouldn't > have blown your cover.

Hi Jacob, glad you liked it. Regarding losing track of 1/1: I originally had a 1/1 drone throughout, but ultimately I decided that it was masking the other frequencies too much. Seemed more interesting to just end up there and leave it implied otherwise.

There are 19 simultaneous sine tones throughout: 6 from the "up" glide, 6 from the 3/2 "down" gliding, and 7 for the two together. (I don't play the 1/1 in the first two instances, which is why there are only 6 tones.) Sometimes it sounds like fewer voices because you get unisons in some cases.

- Dave

Jacob wrote:
> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@a...>
> wrote:
> >>Can't say i reacted to it on the level of consonance /dissonance as it >>seemed to just be molting in a world of it's own.
>> Marcus hobbs with Erv and stephan tayor did a piece where they
> > expanded > >>a generator as a gliss and the music would proceed in different mos >>sclaes made from it, twisting and turning at various points.
> > > OOOooo I've wanted to do a piece like that for a year now! Where the
> whole scale glissandoes, but each note at a different rate dependent
> on the generator? ...Yeah!
> > I was thinking of having this sort of light diatonic lounge music but
> then have the scale fold into a 5 note mos, then a 2 note...then
> jamming on a unison or something, I dunno.
> > But anyway, "Drift Dhikr" is really something else. I hear these
> moments of convergence of sorts, but I lose all notion of where 1/1
> was originally. The power of sinusoids. So how many individually
> moving pitches are there, counting combination tones? 8?
> > Jacob

Dave,

I enjoyed this very much, and I particularly enjoy it when pure algorithmic or
conceptual approaches pay off so well as they do here. But even not knowing
the concept, the sound is hypnotic and engaging. Very cool!

Best,
Aaron.

On Friday 08 July 2005 10:31 pm, Dave Seidel wrote:
> Hi Jacob, glad you liked it. Regarding losing track of 1/1: I
> originally had a 1/1 drone throughout, but ultimately I decided that it
> was masking the other frequencies too much. Seemed more interesting to
> just end up there and leave it implied otherwise.
>
> There are 19 simultaneous sine tones throughout: 6 from the "up" glide,
> 6 from the 3/2 "down" gliding, and 7 for the two together. (I don't
> play the 1/1 in the first two instances, which is why there are only 6
> tones.) Sometimes it sounds like fewer voices because you get unisons
> in some cases.
>
> - Dave
>
> Jacob wrote:
> > --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@a...>
> >
> > wrote:
> >>Can't say i reacted to it on the level of consonance /dissonance as it
> >>seemed to just be molting in a world of it's own.
> >> Marcus hobbs with Erv and stephan tayor did a piece where they
> >
> > expanded
> >
> >>a generator as a gliss and the music would proceed in different mos
> >>sclaes made from it, twisting and turning at various points.
> >
> > OOOooo I've wanted to do a piece like that for a year now! Where the
> > whole scale glissandoes, but each note at a different rate dependent
> > on the generator? ...Yeah!
> >
> > I was thinking of having this sort of light diatonic lounge music but
> > then have the scale fold into a 5 note mos, then a 2 note...then
> > jamming on a unison or something, I dunno.
> >
> > But anyway, "Drift Dhikr" is really something else. I hear these
> > moments of convergence of sorts, but I lose all notion of where 1/1
> > was originally. The power of sinusoids. So how many individually
> > moving pitches are there, counting combination tones? 8?
> >
> > Jacob
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Thanks, Aaron, glad you like it. Because I'm working in Csound, which is really a programming language (and because I'm a programmer by profession), it's natural for me to think in terms of process. But ultimately I care more about the results of the process at least as much as the process itself. Gotta sound good first, otherwise what's the point of making music? :-)

- Dave

Aaron Krister Johnson wrote:
> Dave,
> > I enjoyed this very much, and I particularly enjoy it when pure algorithmic or > conceptual approaches pay off so well as they do here. But even not knowing > the concept, the sound is hypnotic and engaging. Very cool!
> > Best,
> Aaron.