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🔗daniel_anthony_stearns <daniel_anthony_stearns@...>

5/5/2005 8:30:11 PM

Another forum I participate in is one for experimental guitarists.
And ,as you might expect, microtonality is a frequent topic...and on
the way to the promised land I've noticed a couple interesting
things. The most interesting of these has been that given the choice,
and these guys really had a special choice as we pretty much had an
in-house luthier doing custom refrettings at cost!, guys ,even arch
experimentally minded ones like these will chose a fretless guitar
over an exotically refretted one. Why.......lot's of reasons I'm
sure, and to small a sample size to conclude anything remotely
rigorous either. But those are the facts. Fretless guitar is big, and
unlike the inroads the fretless bass made into the mainstream family
of instruments and our everyday language , a lot of the guys plugging
these defretted cousins in are doing so with massively microwilted
intensions--or at least results! Personally I don't fuss much over
these kinds of distinctions....sounds good is good but everything
that sounds good isn't necessarily so good and everything that sounds
bad isn't necessarily so bad.You decide, I already have.

Anyway, back in the mighty day of the cassette underground the
unspoken motto was "anything goes". Well the spirit of the Cassette
Mythos is still alive and well, and put micro tools in the hands of
the people and the people will make micro music.....well I suppose a
lot of people do that, right? Right. But I guess after all these
years I'd still have to say that as a general rule I'm more
interested with people who's first inclination is to make music and
second inclination is to make it regardless of the fact that it's
microtonal or that there are microtonalist. Ignorance isn't
necessarily bliss, but it's a good first step!

Ok .This is Brad. He plays fretless. Has fun and makes lots of music.
He is what I guess they call a "primitive", hmm even I call him that.
Primitive or not, I usually like everything he does to some extent
and I'm always thrilled to hear the way he keeps progressively adding
more and more megatonage of microtonage as the fretless spends more
and more time under his hands.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/1/newbiebradmusic.htm

Every once in a while, depending a bit on the depravity and
overstimulated state of your ears I guess, you might hear something
that really blurs the lines between "novice" and "genius". Well some
week day last month in a space between punching in in the morning and
punching out at night I went to the library when I was supposed to go
to lunch and streamed Pengy and had a fairly recent every-once-in a-
while .

🔗David Beardsley <db@...>

5/7/2005 1:47:02 PM

daniel_anthony_stearns wrote:

>Another forum I participate in is one for experimental guitarists. >And ,as you might expect, microtonality is a frequent topic...and on >the way to the promised land I've noticed a couple interesting >things. The most interesting of these has been that given the choice, >and these guys really had a special choice as we pretty much had an >in-house luthier doing custom refrettings at cost!, guys ,even arch >experimentally minded ones like these will chose a fretless guitar >over an exotically refretted one. Why.......lot's of reasons I'm >sure, and to small a sample size to conclude anything remotely >rigorous either. But those are the facts. >
Starting from scratch with microtones scares the snot out of them.
There's only been two times where someone has asked me to play the
Just guitar. They didn't get very far.

--
* David Beardsley
* microtonal guitar
* http://biink.com/db

🔗daniel_anthony_stearns <daniel_anthony_stearns@...>

5/7/2005 5:51:51 PM

I know what you mean, and I remember Haverstick telling me that one
time Schneider interviewed Johnny Mac in the radio studio or some
such, and McLaughlin never even touched one of Schneider's JIguitars
which were there for the touching! Anyway, I don't think this is
quite the same with these guys...they're all pretty "out there" and
hardly too timid or too proud to look inept <insert smile thing
here>. And a few them GOT refretted guitars too...but even these guys
found themselves more attracted to their fretlesses than their
refrets . I don't make too much of it, but it is what it is...... a
little bit of a battlefield census for whatever it's worth I guess.

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, David Beardsley <db@b...>
wrote:
> daniel_anthony_stearns wrote:
>
> >Another forum I participate in is one for experimental guitarists.
> >And ,as you might expect, microtonality is a frequent topic...and
on
> >the way to the promised land I've noticed a couple interesting
> >things. The most interesting of these has been that given the
choice,
> >and these guys really had a special choice as we pretty much had
an
> >in-house luthier doing custom refrettings at cost!, guys ,even
arch
> >experimentally minded ones like these will chose a fretless guitar
> >over an exotically refretted one. Why.......lot's of reasons I'm
> >sure, and to small a sample size to conclude anything remotely
> >rigorous either. But those are the facts.
> >
> Starting from scratch with microtones scares the snot out of them.
> There's only been two times where someone has asked me to play the
> Just guitar. They didn't get very far.
>
> --
> * David Beardsley
> * microtonal guitar
> * http://biink.com/db