New 22-tET Music

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/1/cityoftheasleepmusic.htm

Check out "revenge of the inorganic compounds". Decatonic [mostly,
except for some Superpyth in the interlude] Metal to the EXTREEEM!!!!
with some really f'ed up compound meters. Not quite the level of Mr.
Stearns' work, but I'm getting there ;->. Comments highly encouraged.

I'm currently working on another metal piece that's a bit more
thematic, based around a recurring 6-against-5 polyrhythm and some
rather gnarly harmonies. I also have a song that I'll post a bit later
that is quite the contrast: the slowest song I've ever written, at a
lugubrious 77 bpm. Aaaand, I have a simple Porcupine-8 rock song (not
to be confused with the one Stevie and I are working on) that I may
post eventually. Ugh, now THERE'S a difficult scale to compose with!
I think the only musical idiom it fits well with is pop-rock (or maybe
Gregorian Chant!); it's too blunt to handle more "nuanced" music.

-Igliashon

Nice! That goes into iTunes for repeated play.

- Rich Holmes

Thanks, Rich! Glad you enjoyed it! I'll get some more up soon.

-Igs

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Rich Holmes<rsholmes@m...> wrote:
> Nice! That goes into iTunes for repeated play.
>
> - Rich Holmes

>http://www.soundclick.com/bands/1/cityoftheasleepmusic.htm
>
>Check out "revenge of the inorganic compounds". Decatonic [mostly,
>except for some Superpyth in the interlude] Metal to the EXTREEEM!!!!
>with some really f'ed up compound meters. Not quite the level of Mr.
>Stearns' work, but I'm getting there ;->. Comments highly encouraged.
>
>I'm currently working on another metal piece that's a bit more
>thematic, based around a recurring 6-against-5 polyrhythm and some
>rather gnarly harmonies. I also have a song that I'll post a bit later
>that is quite the contrast: the slowest song I've ever written, at a
>lugubrious 77 bpm. Aaaand, I have a simple Porcupine-8 rock song (not
>to be confused with the one Stevie and I are working on) that I may
>post eventually. Ugh, now THERE'S a difficult scale to compose with!
>I think the only musical idiom it fits well with is pop-rock (or maybe
>Gregorian Chant!); it's too blunt to handle more "nuanced" music.
>
>-Igliashon

Igs, this is awesome!!!!!!!!!

-Carl

Dude, the 22tet metal is just sick, sick, sick, if you
had a dope singer like Ronnie James Dio howling on
there it would be waaay over the top.

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Mr. Igliasho,

What he said:
> >
> >-Igliashon
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> Igs, this is awesome!!!!!!!!!
>
> -Carl

Prent

Igs,

{you wrote...}
>Check out "revenge of the inorganic compounds".

Bonus! Might not be too late for you guys to open for U2 and gain micro-exposure.

Killer stuff.

Cheers,
Jon

> Bonus! Might not be too late for you guys to open for U2 and gain
> micro-exposure.

"You guys"? Sadly, this one's still just me. If I could just find a
drummer who could play this kind of stuff...

Glad you liked it, at any rate!
-igs

Wow, Carl! Glad you enjoyed it! Did any part(s) stand out to you,
in particular?

-Igs

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Carl Lumma <ekin@l...> wrote:
> >http://www.soundclick.com/bands/1/cityoftheasleepmusic.htm
> >
> >Check out "revenge of the inorganic compounds". Decatonic
[mostly,
> >except for some Superpyth in the interlude] Metal to the
EXTREEEM!!!!
> >with some really f'ed up compound meters. Not quite the level of
Mr.
> >Stearns' work, but I'm getting there ;->. Comments highly
encouraged.
> >
> >I'm currently working on another metal piece that's a bit more
> >thematic, based around a recurring 6-against-5 polyrhythm and some
> >rather gnarly harmonies. I also have a song that I'll post a bit
later
> >that is quite the contrast: the slowest song I've ever written, at
a
> >lugubrious 77 bpm. Aaaand, I have a simple Porcupine-8 rock song
(not
> >to be confused with the one Stevie and I are working on) that I
may
> >post eventually. Ugh, now THERE'S a difficult scale to compose
with!
> >I think the only musical idiom it fits well with is pop-rock (or
maybe
> >Gregorian Chant!); it's too blunt to handle more "nuanced" music.
> >
> >-Igliashon
>
> Igs, this is awesome!!!!!!!!!
>
> -Carl

Igs,

{you wrote...}
>"You guys"? Sadly, this one's still just me.

Sorry - misread the reference to "Stevie and I". Wouldn't say sadly, though, pretty decent programming/playing/however. And you should be able to find a drummer to do that in the Bay area, maybe not microtonally...

Cheers,
Jon

>Wow, Carl! Glad you enjoyed it! Did any part(s) stand out to you,
>in particular?
>
>-Igs

If I could answer yes, I probably wouldn't have enjoyed it as much.

Yes this is a cop-out, but it's a true one. The piece is
structurally sound. The ending -- all of it.

Who's playing drums?

Microtonally, I like the intro and the interlude at 3:50 the
best. Rhythmically, the break at 0:54 is awesome.

Really, a fantastic contribution to microtonal music.

-C.

> Who's playing drums?

My computer. I guess that's a testament to my programming skills if
you thought it was a real person!

> Microtonally, I like the intro and the interlude at 3:50 the
> best. Rhythmically, the break at 0:54 is awesome.

The funny thing about those rhythmic breaks is that they follow the
accent pattern from the intro exactly, but at 1/4 the tempo. The first
break is the first half of the pattern, the second is the second half,
and the third break is the whole deal.

My one qualm with the way I wrote that piece is that I still relied
heavily on the traditional 2:3:4 "power-chord" motif. Because of that,
the casual listener probably wouldn't be able to tell that it's
microtonal, except for the intro and break-down. That definitely won't
be the case with my next piece....

> Really, a fantastic contribution to microtonal music.

*blush* So I guess it's not too bad for one day's worth of composition
and recording? ;->

-Igs

>> Who's playing drums?
>
>My computer. I guess that's a testament to my programming skills if
>you thought it was a real person!

No, I knew. I'm curious to know what you used.

-Carl

hi Igs,

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Igliashon Jones" <igliashon@s.
..> wrote:

> http://www.soundclick.com/bands/1/cityoftheasleepmusic.htm
>
> Check out "revenge of the inorganic compounds". Decatonic
> [mostly, except for some Superpyth in the interlude] Metal
> to the EXTREEEM!!!! with some really f'ed up compound meters.
> Not quite the level of Mr. Stearns' work, but I'm getting
> there ;->. Comments highly encouraged.

this is some crazy shit. i love it!

-monz

Nice job mister Jones, more in this style please .

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Igliashon Jones"
<igliashon@s...> wrote:
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> http://www.soundclick.com/bands/1/cityoftheasleepmusic.htm
>
> Check out "revenge of the inorganic compounds". Decatonic
[mostly,
> except for some Superpyth in the interlude] Metal to the
EXTREEEM!!!!
> with some really f'ed up compound meters. Not quite the level of
Mr.
> Stearns' work, but I'm getting there ;->. Comments highly
encouraged.
>
> I'm currently working on another metal piece that's a bit more
> thematic, based around a recurring 6-against-5 polyrhythm and some
> rather gnarly harmonies. I also have a song that I'll post a bit
later
> that is quite the contrast: the slowest song I've ever written, at
a
> lugubrious 77 bpm. Aaaand, I have a simple Porcupine-8 rock song
(not
> to be confused with the one Stevie and I are working on) that I
may
> post eventually. Ugh, now THERE'S a difficult scale to compose
with!
> I think the only musical idiom it fits well with is pop-rock (or
maybe
> Gregorian Chant!); it's too blunt to handle more "nuanced" music.
>
> -Igliashon

Cool stuff, Ig! Keep doing it. My favorite part is the shredding from 5:02 to 5:25, especially when the second guitar joins in. Is the guitar all real-time?

- Dave

Igliashon Jones wrote:
> > http://www.soundclick.com/bands/1/cityoftheasleepmusic.htm
> > Check out "revenge of the inorganic compounds". Decatonic [mostly, > except for some Superpyth in the interlude] Metal to the EXTREEEM!!!! > with some really f'ed up compound meters. Not quite the level of Mr. > Stearns' work, but I'm getting there ;->. Comments highly encouraged.
> > I'm currently working on another metal piece that's a bit more > thematic, based around a recurring 6-against-5 polyrhythm and some > rather gnarly harmonies. I also have a song that I'll post a bit later > that is quite the contrast: the slowest song I've ever written, at a > lugubrious 77 bpm. Aaaand, I have a simple Porcupine-8 rock song (not > to be confused with the one Stevie and I are working on) that I may > post eventually. Ugh, now THERE'S a difficult scale to compose with! > I think the only musical idiom it fits well with is pop-rock (or maybe > Gregorian Chant!); it's too blunt to handle more "nuanced" music.
> > -Igliashon
> > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > > > > >

>Is the guitar all real-time?

Oh, you better believe it! It's just two-hand tapping, though, so it's
not as difficult as it sounds.

-Igliashon

Have you ever tried a Chapman Stick or a Warr Guitar? Neither are microtonal by default, but I bet either one could be commissioned to make a microtonal version (wish I could afford to do that!). I used to own a Stick but eventually sold it to get a Turkish tanbur (don't have that anymore, either). The thought of a microtonal tapping instrument (i.e., one specifically designed for tapping) is very alluring.

- Dave

Igliashon Jones wrote:
> >>Is the guitar all real-time?
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> > -Igliashon
> > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
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> Have you ever tried a Chapman Stick or a Warr Guitar?

A Stick is definitely on my list of "Things to buy when I'm filthy
stinking rich". Until then, I'm content to tap away on a regular
guitar.

-Igs

Chapman will not make a microtonal stick or would not at one point. too bad they are quite nice instruments that offer quite a bit of promise. possibly you could get one unfretted, by i think he didn't want to do that either.
Dave Seidel wrote:

>Have you ever tried a Chapman Stick or a Warr Guitar? Neither are >microtonal by default, but I bet either one could be commissioned to >make a microtonal version (wish I could afford to do that!). I used to >own a Stick but eventually sold it to get a Turkish tanbur (don't have >that anymore, either). The thought of a microtonal tapping instrument >(i.e., one specifically designed for tapping) is very alluring.
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Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>
The Wandering Medicine Show
KXLU <http://www.kxlu.com/main.html> 88.9 FM Wed 8-9 pm Los Angeles

Too bad. I don't think they'd work well unfretted, though, the strings need to strike the fret to generate sufficient energy, they would be too faint otherwise.

- Dave

Kraig Grady wrote:
> Chapman will not make a microtonal stick or would not at one point. too > bad they are quite nice instruments that offer quite a bit of promise. > possibly you could get one unfretted, by i think he didn't want to do > that either.
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> > >>Have you ever tried a Chapman Stick or a Warr Guitar? Neither are >>microtonal by default, but I bet either one could be commissioned to >>make a microtonal version (wish I could afford to do that!). I used to >>own a Stick but eventually sold it to get a Turkish tanbur (don't have >>that anymore, either). The thought of a microtonal tapping instrument >>(i.e., one specifically designed for tapping) is very alluring.
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the idea was to buy one and fret it your self.

Dave Seidel wrote:

>Too bad. I don't think they'd work well unfretted, though, the strings >need to strike the fret to generate sufficient energy, they would be too >faint otherwise.
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Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>
The Wandering Medicine Show
KXLU <http://www.kxlu.com/main.html> 88.9 FM Wed 8-9 pm Los Angeles

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@a...>
wrote:
> Chapman will not make a microtonal stick or would not at one point. too
> bad they are quite nice instruments that offer quite a bit of promise.
> possibly you could get one unfretted, by i think he didn't want to do
> that either.

I recall Emmett Chapman stating that he built a 19-tET Stick for a
customer once.

It's best to contact Emmett directly and find out for yourself if
he'll do a custom job for you or not. He has a factory manufacturing
most of his Sticks.

Paolo

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Igliashon Jones"
<igliashon@s...> wrote:
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> >Is the guitar all real-time?
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> Oh, you better believe it! It's just two-hand tapping, though, so it's
> not as difficult as it sounds.
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> -Igliashon

Still requires substantial, disciplined practice, though. I tried my
hand at Stick once upon a time.

i am glad he finally changed his tune

paolovalladolid wrote:

>--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@a...>
>wrote:
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>>Chapman will not make a microtonal stick or would not at one point. too >>bad they are quite nice instruments that offer quite a bit of promise. >>possibly you could get one unfretted, by i think he didn't want to do >>that either.
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>I recall Emmett Chapman stating that he built a 19-tET Stick for a
>customer once. >
>It's best to contact Emmett directly and find out for yourself if
>he'll do a custom job for you or not. He has a factory manufacturing
>most of his Sticks.
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Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>
The Wandering Medicine Show
KXLU <http://www.kxlu.com/main.html> 88.9 FM Wed 8-9 pm Los Angeles

Jose Garcia who had a microtonal band in the 80's here in L.A. called Cypher which used Erv's 22 tone 7 limit scale. He used to play a stick and what makes the instrument so nice is that he could keep up a bass and rhythm guitar stuff with one hand and solo with the other. He tried a few times to get a microtonal instrument visiting Chapman in person
Doesn't Sonic Youth already have refretted guitars to play some pure 7ths and some ofd the stuff i have heard from the aphex twin was anything but 12.

paolovalladolid wrote:

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Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>
The Wandering Medicine Show
KXLU <http://www.kxlu.com/main.html> 88.9 FM Wed 8-9 pm Los Angeles

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@a...>
wrote:
> Jose Garcia who had a microtonal band in the 80's here in L.A. called
> Cypher which used Erv's 22 tone 7 limit scale. He used to play a stick
> and what makes the instrument so nice is that he could keep up a bass
> and rhythm guitar stuff with one hand and solo with the other. He tried
> a few times to get a microtonal instrument visiting Chapman in person

Well, I didn't meet Emmett Chapman until the mid 1990s. A
microtonally fretted Stick would for him constitute a custom job. I
once again recommend contacting him directly and asking him if he will
make a _custom_ instrument for you, for those of you considering such
a route.

Paolo

I do agree it is a good idea to contact him directly. the more who do, the more willing he will be regardless if he is already more open to the idea.
If i was going to work with amplified instruments. it would be high on my list. It is way more interesting than guitar. Although i would just try to get one without frets and have someone else with more experience with varied tuning to do the fret job.

paolovalladolid wrote:

>--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@a...>
>wrote:
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>>Jose Garcia who had a microtonal band in the 80's here in L.A. called >>Cypher which used Erv's 22 tone 7 limit scale. He used to play a stick >>and what makes the instrument so nice is that he could keep up a bass >>and rhythm guitar stuff with one hand and solo with the other. He tried >>a few times to get a microtonal instrument visiting Chapman in person
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>Well, I didn't meet Emmett Chapman until the mid 1990s. A
>microtonally fretted Stick would for him constitute a custom job. I
>once again recommend contacting him directly and asking him if he will
>make a _custom_ instrument for you, for those of you considering such
>a route.
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Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>
The Wandering Medicine Show
KXLU <http://www.kxlu.com/main.html> 88.9 FM Wed 8-9 pm Los Angeles