Logic answers to questions from Justin

> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 05:33:25 -0000
> From: "Justin White" <JUSTINTONATION@...>
> Subject: Re: Justin White asked about microtuning using Logic - here > is the lowdown.
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> Hi Charles thanks for your response.
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> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Charles Lucy <makemicro@l...> > wrote:
>>
>> If you are wanting to produce professional/commercial microtonal >> music,
>> Logic is certainly the best current way to do it, from my experience
>> There are some kracks out there for the last M$ version 5, but to make
>> the microtuning really easy you need to go for Logic 7, which requires
>> a Mac G3 or higher running OSX (best on G5 dual with extra RAM) and a
>> legit. dongle.
>
> Okay I have a G4 400 mhz machine.

Besides my G5 dual 2Ghz, I also have a G4 400Mhz laptop and a 400 Mhz desktop, which I had been using earlier for Logic, and still continue to use.
The problem with the slower 400 Mhz G4's is that as soon as you attempt to use more than about six virtual instruments simultaneously, you run out of live processing power.
In consequence you either have to freeze some of the tracks (i.e. convert to audio) or bounce them, which is fine unless you wish to later make changes, in which case you have to unfreeze the tracks,
do your changes and refreeze them, which can take a few minutes to process, and interrupts your creative workflow.

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>> There is some info. + downloads about how to do the tuning here:
>>
>> http://www.lucytune.com/midi_and_keyboard/pitch_bend.html
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> I'll check out the link.
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>> The limitation is that you can only use a max of 12 notes per octave >> at
>> any one time via the tuning settings for your virtual instruments and
>> pitch correction etc.
>>
>> The workaround is to bounce to audio for one tuning assignment, change
>> the tuning settings, bounce other tracks for second/third/etc tuning
>> assignments, then mix the various audio tracks.
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> Okay I was just planning to use a third party virtual synth like the > Cantor thing from
> virsyn.

I am not familiar with that virtual synth, but if it can operate as a plug-in VST or AU,
or has a bridge to Logic, you should be able to use it; otherwise you may just have to record its audio output into Logic,
if you are running it on another platform (e.g. M$), and I assume that you would sync it via MIDI, using Logic as the master MIDI sequencer.

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> But it is good to know that you you can retune Logics synths.
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>> The stated resolution is to nearest tenth of a cent.
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>> I am currently running Logic 7.0.1, which has a few bugs still, but
>> there are workarounds.
>>
>> The main current limitation is that you can only run one sound card at
>> a time as AU audio is set up at present, but it does surround sound
>> perfectly, and is great for video/film sync using QuickTime video.
>>
>> But beware it has a STEEP learning curve.
>>
>> The many logic user groups are very responsive and helpful.
>
> Okay.

They might be a better place to post your Logic questions, as it seems that I may be the only really experienced Logic user on this list.
Join:
logic-users@yahoogroups.com
Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com
and
exs-users@yahoogroups.com

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>> I'm have Logic installed on one G5 dual 2.0 MHz 4Gig Ram 250GB HD +
>> 500GB outboard HD and two G4 400 MHz, which are all linked on a LAN +
>> WiFi.
>>
>> You can sample, then throw away, all your old synths, samplers, efx
>> boxes, filters etc. Logic makes them all obsolete.
>
> What type of audio/midi interface/s are you using?

I am using MT4 in and four out midi interface, and an EMI 2|6 sound card 2 in 6 out; although I have been taking my G5 into top level pro studios to link into their top quality cards, boards etc.
to do final commercial mixing. e.g. for the LucyTuned Lullabies II album. See:

http://www.lullabies.co.uk

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>> To produce pro music, hardware required is a Mac G5 + good six or >> more
>> channel sound card or similar + a midi in through a decent keyboard +
>> useful item is a six or more channel mixer + microphones and electric
>> and acoustic instruments + build/collect yourself a good sample
>> library.
>>
>> I hope this is helpful.
>>
>> It will even (horrors of horrors) microtune JI (if that's your bag) >> -;)
>
>
> ;-) I saw a drama about longitude Harrison. It was very interesting!

It was probably the Granada film called "Longitude" from the Dava Sobel book, directed by Charles Sturridge of "Brideshead Revisited" fame, with Jeremy Irons, and Michael Gambon playing Harrison
I worked on that production here in Ham, near London and with one of the Oxford University choirs in 1999.
The action jumps between Harrison's era (1700's) and the 1920/30's, as his clocks are restored.
(I took more money in lieu of credits;-)
The result was a very good film biography of Harrison, which showed the scientific politics and intrigues of 18th and 20th century Britain in an interesting form.
Twenty-first century Britain still has many similarities;-)
It is now available on DVD from the public libraries here in UK, so prolly also elsewhere too, well worth watching if you are interested in scientific, naval, and political history, or like a good historical drama.
More info on it is at:

http://www.harmonics.com/lucy/lsd/granada.html

Charles Lucy - lucy@...
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