Land o' Goshen (!)

Hi All,

I guess I've finally found out what all the whoopdedoo was about all those years ago when my geeky, tweaky, keyboard-playing associates got their first music softwares. :-) Oh yea! Drummers, and their rigs, too. Hee!

I don't really have the processing power to run the sampler, I guess, but I managed to get it to sputter at lo-fi setting, and then, when I cranked it up to 'hi-fi' to bounce to audio, voila! Or close enough for rock 'n' roll, huh? (At lo-fi, the articulations were awful, and the latency was still barely bearable...but it turned out mostly how I played it, finally. ...Any technical observations here would be treasured, indeed! I�ve got 256 MB of RAM with a Pentium 4 2GHz... But it�s the drivers that seem to be all over the place, I think?...Sonar 3, w/Echo Mia. Also, I guess maybe the most important thing would be to find find out where more of the piano experts are, and figure out what I need to do to get steady-running on some good soundfonts or whatever...I haven't downloaded the ones posted recently because I'm not confident I know where to put them so they'll play...and they're at least as big as the VSampler's, mostly.

So, anyhow, I made up this little ditty in the wee hours lately:

http://www.soundclick.com/5/petemcraymusic.htm ===>Whassup Wassily?

It's the VSampler's big, beautiful (?) grand piano tuned to "Elsie Hamilton's gamut" (which is from Schlesinger's Dorian, I gather...) and I don't want to go back! I've got to have a �good� piano that I can PLAY in a microtuning, now. (God, in her infinite wisdom, saw fit to deprive me of my acoustic piano ;-)

I won't say what I think it sounds like in the hopes that one of y'all will check it out and not have your perceptions skewed by my pithy wisecrack, just yet. Any comments would be most welcome!

Best,

Pete

ps I listened rather cursorily (!) to most of the new things posted, nice! I hope you�ll forgive me �for now-- saving most of my flattery for later, or offlist... but, I think Chris Bryan�s stuff is extremely promising, and muy simpatico. Bravo!

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Greetings,

Just heard about this from another list. The tuning software looks very
interesting (sad to say I'm on a mac).

http://www.breetvelt.org/

All best wishes,
Gordon Rumson
Pianist, composer, author and storyteller
Music Director and Organist, St. Matthew's United Church

Because we can only say one word at a time philosophy is monophonic. The
universe is polyphonic and complex to the point of noise. This is a problem
for philosophy. G.R.

Pete,
Good stuff. Keep it up. The microtonal notes sneak up on you in a nice
way.

Prent Rodgers

<petesfriedclams@s...> wrote:
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> Hi All,
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> So, anyhow, I made up this little ditty in the wee hours lately:
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> http://www.soundclick.com/5/petemcraymusic.htm ===>Whassup Wassily?
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> It's the VSampler's big, beautiful (?) grand piano tuned to "Elsie
Hamilton's gamut" (which is from Schlesinger's Dorian, I gather...)
and I don't want to go back! I've got to have a `good' piano that I
can PLAY in a microtuning, now. (God, in her infinite wisdom, saw fit
to deprive me of my acoustic piano ;-)
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>I've got 256 MB of RAM with a Pentium 4 2GHz...

Well, I'm not a tech-support guys, but I've got some ideas that might
help. If the Vsampler works how I think it does, then it's your RAM
that's slowin' ya down. Upgrade to at least 512 MB (though 768 or
1024 would be even better) and you should see a noticeable
improvement. Unless of course Vsampler runs like GIGAsampler and
uses your hard drive as "virtual RAM" to cache the samples, in which
case how large/fast is your hard drive? Also, what version of
Windows are you running? Have you made sure your computer is clean
of adware, spyware, and other useless resource hogs? I noticed my
own setup was getting quite sluggish, so I reformatted and installed
XP professional and the difference is unbelievable.

>But it's the drivers that seem to be all over the place, I
>think?...Sonar 3, w/Echo Mia.

That's some good-quality stuff there, but have you made sure that
Sonar is using the ASIO drivers for the Mia card and not the drivers
that come bundled with it? I know Cubase SL (what I use) defaults to
its own "Multimedia" driver, unless I tell it to use my sound card's
ASIO driver instead. When Cubase is running on its own driver, it's
totally worthless...latency is unbelievably high! But then I switch
to the correct driver, and it's just fine.

> So, anyhow, I made up this little ditty in the wee hours lately:
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> http://www.soundclick.com/5/petemcraymusic.htm ===>Whassup Wassily?

Oooh, that's a tasty one! Prent's right, those xenharmonic intervals
really do sneak up on ya...I really like that shimmering beating
chord at about 1:20, and that short chromatic passage that comes just
a bit later. The theme at the end gives me a very strong image of
sea cliffs on a cloudy day, with someone committing suicide(?) Don't
know why, that's just what popped in to my head. What intervals are
in Elsie Hamilton's gamut? I'm curious.

-Igs

Thanks, Igs!

I'll get back to some of the other stuff, soon, I hope...

hamilton.scl

Elsie Hamilton's gamut, from article The Modes of Ancient Greek Music (1953)

0: 1/1 0.000 unison, perfect prime

1: 22/21 80.537 undecimal minor semitone

2: 11/10 165.004 4/5-tone, Ptolemy's second

3: 22/19 253.805

4: 11/9 347.408 undecimal neutral third

5: 22/17 446.363

6: 11/8 551.318 undecimal semi-augmented fourth

7: 22/15 663.049 undecimal diminished fifth

8: 11/7 782.492 undecimal augmented fifth

9: 44/27 845.453 neutral sixth

10: 22/13 910.790 tridecimal major sixth

11: 11/6 1049.363 21/4-tone, undecimal neutral seventh

12: 2/1 1200.000 octave

Igliashon Jones <igliashon@...> wrote:What intervals are
in Elsie Hamilton's gamut? I'm curious.

-Igs

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subharmonic 22-11 plus a sub 3 of 11. Often with subharmonic flutes the exit hole is tuned to a sub 3/2 of one of the other intervals.

petesfriedclams@... wrote:

>Thanks, Igs! >
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>Elsie Hamilton's gamut, from article The Modes of Ancient Greek Music (1953)
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> 1: 22/21 80.537 undecimal minor semitone
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> 2: 11/10 165.004 4/5-tone, Ptolemy's second
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> 3: 22/19 253.805
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> 6: 11/8 551.318 undecimal semi-augmented fourth
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> 7: 22/15 663.049 undecimal diminished fifth
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> 8: 11/7 782.492 undecimal augmented fifth
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> 10: 22/13 910.790 tridecimal major sixth
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> 11: 11/6 1049.363 21/4-tone, undecimal neutral seventh
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> 12: 2/1 1200.000 octave
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I got this tuner, but I can't figure out how/if it works as a simple metered tuner (failsafe?).

If I could use it to (?mindlessly/) rapidly/noiselessly tune my guitar or whatever to non-12-equals AND use the audio output for real-ear tuning, I'd be pretty excited, to say the least. Is there a buyable one like that, if this horse don't run without a lot of 'coaxing'?

(I'm also worried that I'm about to get irrevocably 'addicted' to A=432, for real...it seems really nice, right now.)

Gordon Rumson <rumsong@...> wrote:

Greetings,

Just heard about this from another list. The tuning software looks very
interesting (sad to say I'm on a mac).

http://www.breetvelt.org/

All best wishes,
Gordon Rumson
Pianist, composer, author and storyteller
Music Director and Organist, St. Matthew's United Church

Because we can only say one word at a time philosophy is monophonic. The
universe is polyphonic and complex to the point of noise. This is a problem
for philosophy. G.R.

Yahoo! Groups Links

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