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🔗Carl Lumma <ekin@...>

6/25/2004 1:33:45 PM

Gene,

The PC version of this has a "save as audio" feature.

Anybody know what sort of microtuning support it has?

-Carl

🔗Jonathan M. Szanto <JSZANTO@...>

6/25/2004 3:48:29 PM

C,

{you wrote...}
>Anybody know what sort of microtuning support it has?

GPO is driven by the Kontakt sample engine, as licensed from Native Instruments. Currently Kontakt has no microtuning facilities, though oddly enough their budget sample, Kompakt, does, albeit in a limited way (i.e. no file import, etc.).

I tried the GP site but they appear to be down or funky at the moment. One can get good results with the GPO, as I've worked with a number of film composers that use it. As with all sample-based stuff, you don't get good results by just throwing something at it, you have to nuance the lines and all that good stuff...

Cheers,
Jon

🔗Carl Lumma <ekin@...>

7/1/2004 9:02:30 AM

> >Anybody know what sort of microtuning support it has?
>
> GPO is driven by the Kontakt sample engine, as licensed
> from Native Instruments. Currently Kontakt has no
> microtuning facilities, though oddly enough their budget
> sample, Kompakt, does, albeit in a limited way (i.e. no
> file import, etc.).

According to Garritan chief programmer Tom Hopkins, the
Kontakt player that comes with GPO does not have tuning
support, but the full version of Kontakt, which GPO could
equally-well be used with, does. He didn't seem to know
whether it can load .tun files, but he lists about 20
included tunings.

As we've seen, Native Instruments is not forthcoming with
documentation.

-Carl

🔗Gene Ward Smith <gwsmith@...>

7/2/2004 2:20:51 PM

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Lumma" <ekin@l...> wrote:
> > >Anybody know what sort of microtuning support it has?
> >
> > GPO is driven by the Kontakt sample engine, as licensed
> > from Native Instruments. Currently Kontakt has no
> > microtuning facilities, though oddly enough their budget
> > sample, Kompakt, does, albeit in a limited way (i.e. no
> > file import, etc.).
>
> According to Garritan chief programmer Tom Hopkins, the
> Kontakt player that comes with GPO does not have tuning
> support, but the full version of Kontakt, which GPO could
> equally-well be used with, does. He didn't seem to know
> whether it can load .tun files, but he lists about 20
> included tunings.
>
> As we've seen, Native Instruments is not forthcoming with
> documentation.

Here in California Kontakt is going for $449, which is a lot of money
to pay for a product which whose capabilities are not very well nor
fully described. The NI web site is typical in trying to sell
products using graphics and superlatives, but in neglecting to say
what, exactly, you get for your money.

🔗Jonathan M. Szanto <JSZANTO@...>

7/2/2004 2:39:17 PM

Gene,

{you wrote...}
>Here in California Kontakt is going for $449...

Try Froogle - you can find it for less and save sales tax as well.

>The NI web site is typical in trying to sell products using graphics and >superlatives, but in neglecting to say what, exactly, you get for your money.

Welcome to the music biz. NI has actually sold a lot of product, and a lot of people in the pop music world aren't as demanding about certain things as we are. Besides, downloading and trying a demo can frequently answer a lot of questions.

That said, NI gets slammed a lot for bad customer support, and aside from the above caveats, I agree that there could be more straight-forward info on some of their products. What I find more frustrating is a company that has a completely schizophrenic approach to an issue like tuning: they have instruments that go all the way from importing .tun files to instruments that are locked in 12tet, with variations in between. Wildly inconsistent.

Cheers,
Jon