Cameleon 5000 now microtonal (supports .tun)

http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2004/Cameleon-5000-13.html

Hope I find the time to try the demo soon - I just had orchestra
rehearsals 2 nights in a row.

Paolo

Hi Paolo,
> http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2004/Cameleon-5000-13.html
> Hope I find the time to try the demo soon - I just had orchestra
> rehearsals 2 nights in a row.
> Paolo

You'll find more info at their KVR forum:
<http://www.kvr-vst.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=32>

However, I didn't found yet how this new version loads tun files!
;-)
Best,
Philippe

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Philip"
<philippe.gruchet@f...> wrote:
> Hi Paolo,
> > http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2004/Cameleon-5000-13.html
> > Hope I find the time to try the demo soon - I just had orchestra
> > rehearsals 2 nights in a row.
> > Paolo
>
> You'll find more info at their KVR forum:
> <http://www.kvr-vst.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=32>
>
> However, I didn't found yet how this new version loads tun files!

Any luck loading .tun files into Cameleon 5000 now?

Congratulations. I recall you were working on Camel Audio for a while
to get them to implement tuning support.

Paolo

Paolo,

{you wrote...}
> > However, I didn't found yet how this new version loads tun files!
>
>Any luck loading .tun files into Cameleon 5000 now?

It is super-simple: on the lower left part of the instrument GUI, there is a little button with the label "Tuning" - click on it and you get a dialog box listing all the .tun files in a microtuning directory. Pick a file and the instrument is tuned.

(This is in demo version 1.302)

It is a nice instrument, but almost all the patches they send with it are very spacey, ambient, trance-type patches. This is not a bad thing at all, and the instrument sounds very nice. But most of the patches wouldn't really matter all that much if you used a particular tuning, because they already contain so much pitch information in them already!

However, it is another synth that looks pretty deep, and if someone wanted to spend some time crafting patches that really shine in other tunings, it might be just the ticket. I can't remember how many presets it ships with, but there are probably useable ones in there.

Another micro-tuneable demo that anyone can try (my version is PC, can't remember if they support Mac OS)...

Cheers,
Jon

> Another micro-tuneable demo that anyone can try (my version
> is PC, can't remember if they support Mac OS)...

Yes. They do support Mac.

Rick

Dear Paolo!

> Any luck loading .tun files into Cameleon 5000 now?

I got it :-)
I had it so close to my eyes that I didn't saw it the first times!?!
A little button just called "tune" displayed in all tab-windows.
Click and load any tun file format.
(Works fine!)

> Congratulations. I recall you were working on Camel Audio
> for a while to get them to implement tuning support.

Yeah, with Ben Gillet, a very nice person from Scotland.
I'll don't post anything about CA5000 v1.3 until I pay for
using it, as kindly requested by Jonathan.

All I can write is that Ben was able to quickly include a
microtuning feature thanks to the enhanced tun format
created by Mark Henning and his free code.
The same feature we'll get soon in Crystal and some others.

Kindest regards,
Phi

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Jonathan M. Szanto"
<JSZANTO@A...> wrote:
>> It is a nice instrument, but almost all the patches they send with
it are
> very spacey, ambient, trance-type patches. This is not a bad thing
at all,
> and the instrument sounds very nice. But most of the patches
wouldn't
> really matter all that much if you used a particular tuning,
because they
> already contain so much pitch information in them already!

Because it's an additive synth? ;)

All additive synth demos/presets I've heard (starting with the Kawai
K5) tend to emphasize those types of patches. It's an interesting
alternative to physical modeling as far as creating sounds that have
an unusually "alive" quality. The resysthesis features are also
another point of interest for me. Hopefully it will integrate better
with Numerology as an AU than VirSyn Cube (the only other commercial,
microtunable additive/resynthesizing soft synth), which reportedly
crashes it.

BTW, with my 2nd orchestra, I'm getting an education in tuning. This
is old hat to you seasoned arrangers, but I just learned that one
rehearsal technique to fix a questionable passage is to have the
players in the questionable section (e.g. horns, oboes, etc.) play a
selected note from a selected measure and listen to the resulting
chord. Almost always, the source of the offending sound turns out to
be beating going on. The offender(s) are quickly identified and
asked to correct their intonatino.

Paolo