Margo's European Union

I've got an oggified version of that up on my Colleagues web page now:

http://66.98.148.43/~xenharmo/coll.htm

Gene,

{you wrote...}
>I've got an oggified version of that up on my Colleagues web page now:

Good on you, well done! One can (almost) imagine a multi-national choir singing her tune (and her praises?). The only caveat (maybe Margo will chime in): does Margo have a setup to listen to .ogg (or .mp3, for that matter) or will you have to send her a cassette/CD?

Cheers,
Jon

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Jonathan M. Szanto"
<JSZANTO@A...> wrote:
> Gene,
>
> {you wrote...}
> >I've got an oggified version of that up on my Colleagues web page now:
>
> Good on you, well done! One can (almost) imagine a multi-national choir
> singing her tune (and her praises?).

Now if someone can tell me how to get in touch with Joel Mandelbaum,
maybe I could add something I rendered of his.

The only caveat (maybe Margo will
> chime in):

Margo?

Dear Gene and Jon,

First, of course, thank you, Gene, for producing and making available
that .ogg version of my European Union piece in Peppermint; and Jon,
for your most encouraging words and supportive concerns.

Please let me say to both of you that while I'd love to have some
convenient means of hearing an mp3 or ogg file, the really important
thing is that other people can now hear it, thanks to your generosity,
Gene, and also Rick's in doing an mp3 version (which someone played to
me over the telephone).

Needless to say, I'd love to hear both versions on CD. However, my
main deprivation is not being able to hear _other_ people's music made
available here in computer formats, a gift to our community
supplementing CD's which I can and should get (e.g. Aaron Johnson).
There's a spontaneity in being able to post and share these files,
whether of "works in progress" or of finished pieces, that can inform,
educate, and inspire our creative energy all around.

Also, as to what I'm doing here, what I'd call timbrally sensitive
tunings and pieces can sometimes be a special source of frustration
when it comes to this sharing process. If I had a means of promptly
recording and posting my experiments, I'd be doing this right now for
14-tET and also another very exciting tuning that has made me look at
diatonic or "quasi-diatonic" semitones from a new viewpoint, possibly
confirming some tendencies of which certain people are aware.

If I could record digitally from synthesizer to CD, and also to an
audio file format, that would solve the problem of getting my music
out there. A sound card and audio software for MS-DOS 6.22, or a
32-bit DOS-based environment such as DJGPP, would solve the listening
problem. However, I'm not sure what's out there for MS-DOS -- or for a
command-line UNIX-compatible OS and environment (Linux?). Since with
DJGPP I'm already accustomed to lots of UNIX-like commands, I should
at least mention the latter option.

At least with a piece like the one which Rick and Gene have so
generously made available, I can play it on synthesizer, and indeed
would like to get my keyboard interpretation out there in an audio
file and eventually on CD -- the latter, especially, leaving room for
a lot of practice, perfecting, and general refinement of my keyboard
technique.

Of course, even with such a piece, the more renditions and
instrumentations I hear, the better, both to appreciate what I've done
and to consider what I might do.

Thank you, Gene and Rick, for your help in making my piece available
to lots of listeners; and Jon, for your support in considering the
problem of how I might better hear what others are doing here, and
also share my music online.

Most appreciatively, with many thanks,

Margo
mschulter@...

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Margo Schulter <mschulter@c...>
wrote:

> Please let me say to both of you that while I'd love to have some
> convenient means of hearing an mp3 or ogg file, the really important
> thing is that other people can now hear it, thanks to your generosity,
> Gene, and also Rick's in doing an mp3 version (which someone played to
> me over the telephone).

Could you tell us what kind of computer(s) you have available, and in
particular if there is something you can jack headphones into, or
speakers, or both, connected to it? There should be no great
difficulty in playing an ogg or mp3 file for anyone able to post to
this list.

> Needless to say, I'd love to hear both versions on CD. However, my
> main deprivation is not being able to hear _other_ people's music made
> available here in computer formats, a gift to our community
> supplementing CD's which I can and should get (e.g. Aaron Johnson).

If you give out your snail mail address who is to say what could
arrive in your mailbox? If you don't want to give it here, you might
email me at gwsmith%svpal.org (where the % should be replaced with an @)

> Also, as to what I'm doing here, what I'd call timbrally sensitive
> tunings and pieces can sometimes be a special source of frustration
> when it comes to this sharing process. If I had a means of promptly
> recording and posting my experiments, I'd be doing this right now for
> 14-tET and also another very exciting tuning that has made me look at
> diatonic or "quasi-diatonic" semitones from a new viewpoint, possibly
> confirming some tendencies of which certain people are aware.

How difficult is it for you to put these in midi form?

Margo,

In a nutshell: I am sure there are ways that you can be assisted in transferring your music into a recorded format. I am sure that there are people on the list that could assist you. If you, at any time, feel like pursuing this avenue, all you need to do is write us - for me, you know you can write me personally.

I speak for myself in that I don't like to intrude too much into people's lives, but that I am there if they need assistance.

Cheers,
Jon

On Monday 10 May 2004 08:24 pm, Margo Schulter wrote:

> If I could record digitally from synthesizer to CD, and also to an
> audio file format, that would solve the problem of getting my music
> out there. A sound card and audio software for MS-DOS 6.22, or a
> 32-bit DOS-based environment such as DJGPP, would solve the listening
> problem. However, I'm not sure what's out there for MS-DOS -- or for a
> command-line UNIX-compatible OS and environment (Linux?). Since with
> DJGPP I'm already accustomed to lots of UNIX-like commands, I should
> at least mention the latter option.

Margo,

I have been enjoying your posts..thank you for your insightful contributions!

I could be of help to you in the Linux area, where I am somewhat an expert of
sorts, being a Gentoo user myself. In order to help you, I'd need to know the
following pieces of info:

1) Your current computer hardware situation. How old, processor speed, memory,
etc.

2) Your current OS. I assume some flavor of Unix, as you have mentioned using
Linux/using the Lynx browser, and a non-GUI environment (ancient equipment?)

3) your internet bandwidth. (phone line dial-up, DSL, cable modem? I'm
assuming the first (56k modem) ?)

There are interesting command line audio tools in Linux which are quite
flexible and usable (ecasound, sox, aplay/arecord in alsa, I also have
written some Python based command-line tools for midi and microtonal
composition, whch I could pass along, etc.)

If you are using old hardware and a non-GUI environment, get Linux and get new
life out of it. DOS is terrible.... ;)

Hope this helps/can help you !

Best,
--
Aaron Krister Johnson
http://www.dividebypi.com
http://www.akjmusic.com