Re: [MMM] mperia

> http://www.mperia.com/

Amusing, but... If they want to bring in random casual listeners, they'll
have to get a streaming format that works. Their streaming samples of
".pls" files don't appear to work with any browser I have.

Rick

>> http://www.mperia.com/
>
>Amusing, but... If they want to bring in random casual listeners,
>they'll have to get a streaming format that works. Their streaming
>samples of ".pls" files don't appear to work with any browser I
>have.

It's Shoutcast, which is the best streaming platform I know of.
Winamp may be the only player that supports it, however.

-Carl

Carl Lumma wrote:
> It's Shoutcast, which is the best streaming platform I know of.
> Winamp may be the only player that supports it, however.

No problem with XMMS

Graham

Carl,

{you wrote...}
>It's Shoutcast, which is the best streaming platform I know of. Winamp may >be the only player that supports it, however.

Oh, it worked for me - just works terribly. You get a couple of seconds of sound, then buffer loading, then sound, buffer, etc. If they don't end up with another method, they aren't gonna make a splash.

(BTW, when did the world begin to accept BETA work as Finished work? I think that is lamer than anything I know. You got your shit together, you got balls? Make it 1.0, developers!)

I *love* the idea. I *support* the idea. I await a solid implementation.

Cheers,
Jon

>Oh, it worked for me - just works terribly. You get a couple of
>seconds of sound, then buffer loading, then sound, buffer, etc. If
>they don't end up with another method, they aren't gonna make a
>splash.

You're on dialup, right? The bitrate of the file you tried to play is
probably just too high. On mperia this may be up to the artist... I
looked at two songs and one was 128kps, the other 192 -- both too high
to stream over dialup. And oddly, not low enough to motivate me to
buy the songs.

>(BTW, when did the world begin to accept BETA work as Finished work?
>I think that is lamer than anything I know. You got your shit
>together, you got balls? Make it 1.0, developers!)

Consider yourself a beta tester. It behooves them to open the site
to get artists onboard.

-Carl

To get artists and listeners on board, they need to have a streaming format that is as ubiquitous as possible. If "only Winamp" supports whatever they're using, then they're not going for wide distribution. I think these are people with hearts in the right place, but their implementation needs some tweaking before they go public.

Rick

Carl Lumma wrote:

>>Oh, it worked for me - just works terribly. You get a couple of
>>seconds of sound, then buffer loading, then sound, buffer, etc. If
>>they don't end up with another method, they aren't gonna make a
>>splash.
>>
> > You're on dialup, right? The bitrate of the file you tried to play is
> probably just too high. On mperia this may be up to the artist... I
> looked at two songs and one was 128kps, the other 192 -- both too high
> to stream over dialup. And oddly, not low enough to motivate me to
> buy the songs.
> > >>(BTW, when did the world begin to accept BETA work as Finished work?
>>I think that is lamer than anything I know. You got your shit
>>together, you got balls? Make it 1.0, developers!)
>>
> > Consider yourself a beta tester. It behooves them to open the site
> to get artists onboard.
> > -Carl
> > > > [MMM info]------------------------------------------------------
> More MMM music files are at http://www.microtonal.org/music.html
> ------------------------------------------------------[MMM info] > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > > > >

Hi Carl,

{you wrote...}
>You're on dialup, right?

Yep, as are the majority of users, which was sort of my point. More below...

>I looked at two songs and one was 128kps, the other 192 -- both too high
>to stream over dialup. And oddly, not low enough to motivate me to buy >the songs.

Hmmm, I used to be able to stream any 128 file on mp3.com. But this points out the value of having the files in a couple of different formats, and while it may not be open source, people do _not_ have problems with RealAudio streaming, and I would venture to guess the same for Windows Media (yeah, I know, yuck, but the point is to get the music heard, right?).

>Consider yourself a beta tester. It behooves them to open the site to get >artists onboard.

I'll consider being a beta tester on material that is really important to me; I don't consider beta platforms as a place I'd want to pay money to buy something. It doesn't behoove anyone if the service doesn't serve their 'product', but I certainly understand the need to get a roster of music. It's a shame this idea couldn't just be rolled on top of the technology of zebox or that click-thingy that people have recently moved to (Joe P., others) - those seem to work fine.

Cheers,
Jon

Rick,

{you wrote...}
>To get artists and listeners on board, they need to have a streaming >format that is as ubiquitous as possible. If "only Winamp" supports >whatever they're using, then they're not going for wide distribution. I >think these are people with hearts in the right place, but their >implementation needs some tweaking before they go public.

Perfectly said, and I especially agree with their hearts!

Cheers,
Jon

>>I looked at two songs and one was 128kps, the other 192 -- both too
>>high to stream over dialup. And oddly, not low enough to motivate
>>me to buy the songs.
>
>Hmmm, I used to be able to stream any 128 file on mp3.com.

128kbps can't be streamed over dialup, obviously.

-Carl

Carl,

{you wrote...}
>128kbps can't be streamed over dialup, obviously.

Well, I would figure that, but I always thought the "lo-fi" stream on mp3.com was 128 - sheesh, it must have been 44kbps or something, right?

Cheers,
Jon

>{you wrote...}
>>128kbps can't be streamed over dialup, obviously.
>
>Well, I would figure that, but I always thought the "lo-fi" stream
>on mp3.com was 128 - sheesh, it must have been 44kbps or something,
>right?

I never used streaming on mp3, but yes, something like that.

-C.