"inharmonic" ETs, etc. ad hoc infinitum

In a message dated 2004:02:17 02:35:25 AM, Andrew Heathwaite
<gtrpkt@...> writes:

> I personally prefer the "inharmonic" ETs to 19tET (11tET, 21tET, 13tET, etc.
>-- 19tET gives me a headache)

Ya have XJ Scott's website listed? http://www.nonoctave.com/

I personally don't have a website, but I did _come up_ with an
"inharmonic non-octave Xeno-Pythagorean meantone" anyone is free to use, abuse and/or
modify: 7th root of 20:13 (745.8 cents) which is close to 11tET but a bit more
chromatic/colourful sounding, full of "wolves" and a really harsh tritone
(106.54, 213.08, 319.62, 426.16, 532.7, 639.24, 745.78, 852.32, 958.86, 1065.4,
1171.94, 1278.48)

As to this scale, I must acknowledge my influences/inspirations/critical
feedback: Margo Schulter, XJ Scott, Jacky Ligon, John Chalmers, Brian
MacLaren, Kraig Grady, Warren Burt, Jonny Reinhard* and Gene Ward Smith

* BTW (for those new to all this, a bit of Tuning List history [I will
try to be as unbiased as possible]) just a few years ago, the main Tuning List
had a wild bunch of "Intonational Heretics" - a more hardline precursor to the
main list's "Tuning Punks." Quite a number of whom are in "self-imposed
exile" due to the ultravicious shark&orca-like feeding-frenzies of priggish and
highly personalized theoritical conflicts that makes today's munchkin-sized
squabbles look like piranha-nibblings in comparision. I personally got in on the
very tail end of this civil war and was quite clueless (& very very hurt) to why
I suddenly was being attacked for just _being_ friends with certain members
of the list! I also fucked up & reneged on a Yamaha TX deal but had mitigating
financial hardship and health/emotional problems that blindsided/broadsided
me, but no matter how much mea-culpa-ing I did I was "unforgiveable" in some
quarters of the list. So I, too, went into exile... temporarily.
... Now here I stand, I can do no other...
In the interim, I think I grew up a lil & grew a harder skin despite (and
probably because of) my continuing financial hardshit (economic-endangerment:
poorer than the church mice, I owe them) and healthache (Hep C hepcat here... my
PSA of the Day: Please please go get yourself checked out thoroughly if you
ever ever shared shaving toiletries & nail clippers, snorted coke with shared
tooter, used IV drugs even once, got tattoos in prison or some ghetto alleyway
shop, blood transfusions 'fore 1992, etc.
And don't believe that party-girl Pamela Anderson's BS about Hep C, that
she got it from Tommy Lee sexually (she prob'ly got it partying with drugs in
the early-to-mid-1980's), that it's incurable and always terminal (for real
facts consult the American Liver Society's website).
Why do I care to do this PSA?
How could I look at myself in the mirror if I didn't try?
Because any loss is a loss for us all - esp'ly we creative-types (despite
all our possible differences and clashing personalities).
Basic law and code of human decency: if I wish to receive even one iota
of another person's friendship, concern and care, I hafta extend my hand to all
and take the intiative to care first.
Basically we are all just over-sized kids-at-heart - esp'ly we
creative-types. One for all, all for one, baby... and like they say in 12 Step recovery
programs: "principles not personalities" ... capeesh?

Then - before the more cynical, hard-hearted and self-centred amongst
thee say I be fulla shit, consider, ponder, think on the individual moral and
ethical implications of Lorenz's Butterfly Effect Theory of Chaos Science (& the
basis of occultic Chaos Magik): "Does the flap of a butterfly's wings in
Brazil set off a tornado in Texas?" or in another words: "very small changes in
intitial conditions produce widely varying and unpredictable responses"... or
simpler put: "from great simplicity multiplied even greater complexity arises...
as above, so below..."
And as Christians are so fond of saying: we have all sinned and come
short of the glory of God. (Mene mene tekel upsharin, baby! A curse God Damn on
Globalist Babylon and Capitalist Mammon, mon.)

Just my shotgun-blast-style-2-cents towards the total holistic "healing"
and recovery of the Tuning List(s)... and each and every single one of you.
Though I am an unrepentant heathen Taoist WOG (Wiley Oriental Gentleperson) &
renegade rebel 12Stepper, I say: God bless and Godspeed thee.

---|-----|--------|-------------|---------------------|
Hanuman Zhang, musical mad scientist: "Nah, I don't wanna take over the
world, just the sound spectrum to make it my home."

"What strange risk of hearing can bring sound to music - a hearing whose
obligation awakens a sensibility so new that it is forever a unique, new-born,
anti-death surprise, created now and now and now. .. a hearing whose moment
in time is always daybreak." - Lucia Dlugoszewski

Hi Hanuman, I agree with your sentiments and wish for the same things
as you.

There's no such thing as an "Intonational Heretic" as far as the
tuning list and this list have ever been concerned. Those few who
believed in such labeling have had a very short existence on these
lists. The last sign of priggishness on the Tuning List disappeared
around New Year's, in my opinion.

Having been on the tuning list for 95% of the last 8 years, the below
doesn't sound familiar to me at all -- the damaging conflicts, as I
recall, involved personal character smears and were only peripherally
about theory, though you may have been given a different impression
since you were not actually around at the time. The "Tuning Punks",
meanwhile, was an older invention of John Starrett so that he could
put lots of microtonal music, including mine, under one catchy banner
on mp3.com.

Since this is off-topic, please reply to metatuning or offlist.

Blessed be,
Paul

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, czhang23@a... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 2004:02:17 02:35:25 AM, Andrew Heathwaite
> <gtrpkt@y...> writes:
>
> > I personally prefer the "inharmonic" ETs to 19tET (11tET, 21tET,
13tET, etc.
> >-- 19tET gives me a headache)
>
> Ya have XJ Scott's website listed? http://www.nonoctave.com/
>
> I personally don't have a website, but I did _come up_ with an
> "inharmonic non-octave Xeno-Pythagorean meantone" anyone is free to
use, abuse and/or
> modify: 7th root of 20:13 (745.8 cents) which is close to 11tET but
a bit more
> chromatic/colourful sounding, full of "wolves" and a really harsh
tritone
> (106.54, 213.08, 319.62, 426.16, 532.7, 639.24, 745.78, 852.32,
958.86, 1065.4,
> 1171.94, 1278.48)
>
> As to this scale, I must acknowledge my
influences/inspirations/critical
> feedback: Margo Schulter, XJ Scott, Jacky Ligon, John Chalmers,
Brian
> MacLaren, Kraig Grady, Warren Burt, Jonny Reinhard* and Gene Ward
Smith
>
> * BTW (for those new to all this, a bit of Tuning List history
[I will
> try to be as unbiased as possible]) just a few years ago, the main
Tuning List
> had a wild bunch of "Intonational Heretics" - a more hardline
precursor to the
> main list's "Tuning Punks." Quite a number of whom are in "self-
imposed
> exile" due to the ultravicious shark&orca-like feeding-frenzies of
priggish and
> highly personalized theoritical conflicts that makes today's
munchkin-sized
> squabbles look like piranha-nibblings in comparision. I personally
got in on the
> very tail end of this civil war and was quite clueless (& very very
hurt) to why
> I suddenly was being attacked for just _being_ friends with certain
members
> of the list! I also fucked up & reneged on a Yamaha TX deal but had
mitigating
> financial hardship and health/emotional problems that
blindsided/broadsided
> me, but no matter how much mea-culpa-ing I did I
was "unforgiveable" in some
> quarters of the list. So I, too, went into exile... temporarily.
> ... Now here I stand, I can do no other...
> In the interim, I think I grew up a lil & grew a harder skin
despite (and
> probably because of) my continuing financial hardshit (economic-
endangerment:
> poorer than the church mice, I owe them) and healthache (Hep C
hepcat here... my
> PSA of the Day: Please please go get yourself checked out
thoroughly if you
> ever ever shared shaving toiletries & nail clippers, snorted coke
with shared
> tooter, used IV drugs even once, got tattoos in prison or some
ghetto alleyway
> shop, blood transfusions 'fore 1992, etc.
> And don't believe that party-girl Pamela Anderson's BS about
Hep C, that
> she got it from Tommy Lee sexually (she prob'ly got it partying
with drugs in
> the early-to-mid-1980's), that it's incurable and always terminal
(for real
> facts consult the American Liver Society's website).
> Why do I care to do this PSA?
> How could I look at myself in the mirror if I didn't try?
> Because any loss is a loss for us all - esp'ly we creative-
types (despite
> all our possible differences and clashing personalities).
> Basic law and code of human decency: if I wish to receive even
one iota
> of another person's friendship, concern and care, I hafta extend my
hand to all
> and take the intiative to care first.
> Basically we are all just over-sized kids-at-heart - esp'ly we
> creative-types. One for all, all for one, baby... and like they say
in 12 Step recovery
> programs: "principles not personalities" ... capeesh?
>
> Then - before the more cynical, hard-hearted and self-centred
amongst
> thee say I be fulla shit, consider, ponder, think on the individual
moral and
> ethical implications of Lorenz's Butterfly Effect Theory of Chaos
Science (& the
> basis of occultic Chaos Magik): "Does the flap of a butterfly's
wings in
> Brazil set off a tornado in Texas?" or in another words: "very
small changes in
> intitial conditions produce widely varying and unpredictable
responses"... or
> simpler put: "from great simplicity multiplied even greater
complexity arises...
> as above, so below..."
> And as Christians are so fond of saying: we have all sinned and
come
> short of the glory of God. (Mene mene tekel upsharin, baby! A curse
God Damn on
> Globalist Babylon and Capitalist Mammon, mon.)
>
> Just my shotgun-blast-style-2-cents towards the total
holistic "healing"
> and recovery of the Tuning List(s)... and each and every single one
of you.
> Though I am an unrepentant heathen Taoist WOG (Wiley Oriental
Gentleperson) &
> renegade rebel 12Stepper, I say: God bless and Godspeed thee.
>
> ---|-----|--------|-------------|---------------------|
> Hanuman Zhang, musical mad scientist: "Nah, I don't wanna take over
the
> world, just the sound spectrum to make it my home."
>
> "What strange risk of hearing can bring sound to music - a
hearing whose
> obligation awakens a sensibility so new that it is forever a
unique, new-born,
> anti-death surprise, created now and now and now. .. a hearing
whose moment
> in time is always daybreak." - Lucia Dlugoszewski

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Erlich" <perlich@a...>
wrote:

>The last sign of priggishness on the Tuning List disappeared
> around New Year's, in my opinion.

I remember Sault disappearing. Did he take some signs with him?