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Re: [mmm] silly bass

🔗George Zelenz <ploo@...>

8/10/2001 5:35:30 PM

You mean Bill Connor's?

> to have stopped dead with David Torn I guess... What a run
> though -- Rypdal, Gismonti, Metheny, Abercrombie, Towner, Frisell...
> am I forgetting anybody? Connors did some a couple of nice ECM records
> but is not really someone I think of in that group.
>
> --Dan Stearns
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🔗David Beardsley <db@...>

8/10/2001 6:00:09 PM

I would think so. Ralph Towner & J. Abercrombie is still on
ECM and doing great work, but it's been a while since Manfried Echer gave us an
visionary electric guitar player. Rypdal still records for ECM.

http://ecmrecords.com

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----- Original Message -----
From: George Zelenz

You mean Bill Connor's?

> to have stopped dead with David Torn I guess... What a run
> though -- Rypdal, Gismonti, Metheny, Abercrombie, Towner, Frisell...
> am I forgetting anybody? Connors did some a couple of nice ECM records
> but is not really someone I think of in that group.
>
> --Dan Stearns
>
>
>
>
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🔗Jonathan M. Szanto <JSZANTO@...>

8/10/2001 6:22:36 PM

Boys,

{you wrote...}
>http://ecmrecords.com

One of the most influential albums I ever encountered, nigh on to 25 or so
years ago, was Egberto Gismonti's "Dança Das Cabeças"

http://ecmrecords.com/ecm/recordings/1089.html

It wasn't the incredible 8-string guitar playing, or piano playing, or the
incredible compositions and improvisations, or just the magical mix and
holistic nature of the recording...

...it was everything. I followed his stuff best I could, even tracking down
imports from Brazil. He is one astonishing musician, as performer and
composer. Not many like this, that's for sure.

Cheers,
Jon

🔗John Starrett <jstarret@...>

8/10/2001 6:43:50 PM

--- In MakeMicroMusic@y..., "D.Stearns" <STEARNS@C...> wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> #6 and bebop flats were probably my faves, thanks for putting them
up.
>
> One thing I started doing with the fretless early on was repeating
> familiar things, like say a scale or a chord, while slowly and
> continually slightly adjusting my fingering (contracting and
> expanding) thereby severely disrupting the initial equilibrium -
kind
> of like the Vision if that means anything to anyone - of that
familiar
> thing.
>
> By staying close to a pitch set or a chord or whatever I think it's
> easier to heighten the sense of something being amiss... a pitch
> disturber amongst us so to speak!
>
> btw, was digging Neil's guitar synth on bebop flats and it got me
> wondering whatever happened to the lineage of great ECM guitarists?
It
> seems to have stopped dead with David Torn I guess... What a run
> though -- Rypdal, Gismonti, Metheny, Abercrombie, Towner, Frisell...
> am I forgetting anybody? Connors did some a couple of nice ECM
records
> but is not really someone I think of in that group.
>
> --Dan Stearns

Thanks Dan. That's an interesting technique, in fact the whole idea of
making things sound amiss in interesting. No matter what tonality one
uses, there will be a way to get things to go odd. Haven't heard much
from those ECM boys except Frisell. He's a homey, in fact we went to
high school together and even had a regular Saturday free jazz session
at the international house for a month. Try to see him when he comes
to town. He's still doing it.

Here's a question: who is not micro who really should be? Frisell is
my number one choice.

🔗John Starrett <jstarret@...>

8/10/2001 6:45:12 PM

--- In MakeMicroMusic@y..., "D.Stearns" <STEARNS@C...> wrote:
> George,
>
> Yeah, post RTF Bill Connors... he did some all acoustic solo records
> and some ad hoc ECM group type stuff (like with vibraphonist Tom Van
> Der Geld for instance).
>
> --Dan Stearns

Bills solo on Senor Mouse was a jaw dropper to me. Very odd.

🔗George Zelenz <ploo@...>

8/10/2001 11:10:16 PM

Dan, you listened to Bush's Sensual World? Magnificent.

GZ

"D.Stearns" wrote:

> Hi Jon,
>
> I still have some nice Gismonti on vinyl too... "Sol Do Meio Dia" has
> Towner, Vasconcelos, Walcott and Garbarek guesting... the Gismonti,
> Haden, Garberek trio on Folk Songs is nice too.
>
> Lot's of special and immediately recognizable players came out of that
> ECM umbrella... anyone remember Eberhard Weber's playing on Kate
> Bush's wonderful couple of early mid '80s records (The Dreaming and
> Hounds of Love)? A perfect, if peculiar fit...
>
> (I loved Kate, and those two records especially, btw... unfortunately,
> it was all downhill after that.)
>
> --Dan Stearns
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🔗Paul Erlich <paul@...>

8/13/2001 6:53:49 PM

--- In MakeMicroMusic@y..., "D.Stearns" <STEARNS@C...> wrote:
>
> btw, was digging Neil's guitar synth on bebop flats and it got me
> wondering whatever happened to the lineage of great ECM guitarists?
It
> seems to have stopped dead with David Torn I guess... What a run
> though -- Rypdal,

That's funny -- this is exactly what I thought of when I heard Neil's
guitar synth on this list.