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Re: [MMM] Microtonal Sequencer? @Rick

🔗Clemens <ontheway1@...>

10/24/2003 3:20:15 AM

Hi Rick,

unfortunaly, notation seems to catch my feet where i walk. Wherever I compose, I try to run away from notation. I use bar view, for me that is more like wysiwyg, I have trouble trying to think in notes.

What you describe as working way is pretty much the thing I do in Cakewalk. Yes, it's very detailed and time-consuming. Anyway, for me it's the only way I do know at present time to ~directly~ enter pitch values, so that one second later I can hear them...

Does Finale have a bar view? Maybe I should confront myself doing it the "tone height to midipitchbendnote to sequencernote and back"-way to train my mind, but somehow I fear, the flow gets lost. What you told about Carlos Family tunings makes me curious - can you recommend a good web-source related to his work? Do you work with them?

By the way, is there something like a commission for tunings standards in electronic instruments, to make sure something like midimessages for changing tuning tables, and the tuningtables itself, can become a midi-standard in some future years? I guess that's in the hand of the Midi-standard people itself, but I also think there would be enough participants to form a club of easy message handling for all systems (forgetting the fact that there may be things the major hardware producers do not want to be a more universally usable standard).

All the best,
Clemens

If you want to hack notation, you could do that with Coda's "Finale".
Finale supports sending of very specific pitch-bend messages based on
articulations applied to the written notes. But it would be time-consuming
to actually do such things for anything large scale. You have to make up
the articulations and the particular messages, then apply them to the notes
you want. A very detailed process, but one which would work with any synth
that supports standard pitch-bend.

> Considering all the people busy with microtonal music, why did noone
> invent such a thing? Do you think it is useful at all?

For my purposes, it doesn't seem very useful unless it's really
well-integrated with the notation package.Finale can do it, yeah, but it's
not easy enough to do, nor well-integrated enough. You can't just define a
set of frequencies easily in the score, and a set of notations to go with
them, and have it play the right frequencies at the right time. It's much
more complicated than that.

> Or are you happy and satisfied working with the tuning tables of your
> instruments (assuming we talk about midified instruments)?

Pretty happy with them, yes. (Speaking of Rhino, VAZ, and Midicode.) I
would like the ability to easily change tuning tables on-the-fly by using
MIDI messages. That would be particularly useful with "family" tunings,
such as Carlos' Harmonic scale where you may want to modulate between
related scales.

Rick

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