Guitar Retuning and Tuning by Ear

Hi, dear people!

Since I experiment and tune little pieces /instruments by ear, there is not that great necessity for me to exactly rebuilt a given scale pattern on an instrument, as my guitar in this example.

I became curious, if such a tuning - the existing tet frets still shape chords and sounds - through its new note availabilities would be called "microtonal"?

Are there music links in the Internet where I can find music of people doing similar things?

I have been wondering, how scales can much more influence musicians (or does it only seem that way to me) than an "inner sound vision" where instruments have to follow. Do you know softwares, "thinking" in a way supporting this? For example a guitar tuner, saving lots of tunings it measured through the tunings I create by ear, using (guitar signal) microphone input to send to the tuner?

I'd love to browse website that thinks (mind to scale) or (mind to instrument tuning) and covers the practical and software issues of this working-way. I am a little confused by my impression, that "given scales" do rule the microtonality so much, instead of a fresh scale creation with every song.

Thanks for all helping answers!

Clemens

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HI Clemens,

> Do you know softwares, "thinking" in a way supporting this?
> For example a guitar tuner, saving lots of tunings it measured through the tunings I
> create by ear, using (guitar signal) microphone input to send to the tuner?

I did some preliminary work on a software approach to this in FTS
- but more to be done there.

Two ideas I'm exploring.
1. The idea that performer can retune any note while playing using
the pitch bend wheel, and this changes the scale for the rest of the piece.
I've just had a new look at that section and it needs a bit of bug fixing
and am doing a new upload for it.

Anyway the way it works is that it always retunes the most recently played note in a chord.
So you can play a diad, and it will retune only the second note played, and you can
tune it to the first one as you wish. Then you release the keys, and then release
the pitch bend wheel, and those notes in the scale then keep their current tuning
from then on.

2. Finding pitches of notes from a monophonic audio clip and using those
as ones current scale. Aim is to be able to find the pitch of a note to great accuracy,
better than most methods used for that. Works better for some instruments than others.
Guitar may be reasonable but might need some tweaking.

I understand that the idea of the performer making a new tuning like this
is common in performances of Turkish music. Perhaps those who know
about the subject can say more?

Robert

HI Clemens,

> Do you know softwares, "thinking" in a way supporting this?
> For example a guitar tuner, saving lots of tunings it measured through the tunings I
> create by ear, using (guitar signal) microphone input to send to the tuner?

I did some preliminary work on a software approach to this in FTS
- but more to be done there.

Two ideas I'm exploring.
1. The idea that performer can retune any note while playing using
the pitch bend wheel, and this changes the scale for the rest of the piece.
I've just had a new look at that section and it needs a bit of bug fixing
and am doing a new upload for it.

Anyway the way it works is that it always retunes the most recently played note in a chord.
So you can play a diad, and it will retune only the second note played, and you can
tune it to the first one as you wish. Then you release the keys, and then release
the pitch bend wheel, and those notes in the scale then keep their current tuning
from then on.

2. Finding pitches of notes from a monophonic audio clip and using those
as ones current scale. Aim is to be able to find the pitch of a note to great accuracy,
better than most methods used for that. Works better for some instruments than others.
Guitar may be reasonable but might need some tweaking.

I understand that the idea of the performer making a new tuning like this
is common in performances of Turkish music. Perhaps those who know
about the subject can say more?

Robert