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New algorithmic composition tool unveiled

🔗Gene Ward Smith <gwsmith@...>

6/22/2003 4:22:56 PM

I tried out Guenter Nagler's freeware program Wav2midi
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/makemicromusic/files/guenters/Wav2midi.e
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on the second Brandenburg and got this:

/makemicromusic/files/guenters/brand2.mid

This was so successful, using my definition of "successful", that I
tried it on the first movement of the Tchaikovsky 4th symphony, and
got this:

/makemicromusic/files/guenters/tc41.mid

Wondering what might happen if I tried it on something simpler, such
as piano music, I sent a Chopin etude through the mill; see if you
can figure out which etude:

/makemicromusic/files/guenters/chopet.mid

Guenter says to use this program at your own risk.

🔗Jonathan M. Szanto <JSZANTO@...>

6/23/2003 10:36:56 PM

Gene,

{you wrote...}
>I tried out Guenter Nagler's freeware program Wav2midi on the second >Brandenburg and got this:
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>/makemicromusic/files/guenters/brand2.mid

...and the rest.

That is INSANE! :) Gad, how in the hell could a tool manage to so completely fail at a task and create such 'remarkable' results at the same time?! There are remarkable parallels to the work that Frank Zappa did when he was utilizing the Synclavier a lot.

This made me think of two things:

1. If you haven't tried it, and you like to play around with digital paint/graphics type apps, you should have fun in your spare time (and anyone else, too!) with Coagula:

http://www.abc.se/~m11048/Coagula/Coagula.html

Essentially takes bitmaps and converts to audio files, but with some fairly sophisticated tools built in for controlling pitch, pan, etc. I like starting in the program, going out to a dedicated graphics program, and then coming back and rendering.

2. The "Guenter experiment" reminds me of taking text and putting it into one of the translation engines (like Babblefish) and then going back and forth between languages and seeing what it comes out like after a number of iterations. I think it would be interesting to have a chain of these with audio/midi programs, where you go back and forth between the various formats and see what comes up.

(I've seen/heard better wav-->midi programs, but it still seems to be a real challenge, which is no surprise...)

I'm going to try rendering parts of those midi files in Audio Compositor!

Cheers,
Jon