Re: [MMM] Re: Monz trip to Europe

Hi Robert,

I was going to respond to you privately, but I suppose
that you sent it to the list so that others might join
in on our get-together if they're interested, and that's
certainly OK with me! (Also, there's info here that others
might find profitable.)

> From: Robert Walker <robertwalker@...>
> To: <MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 4:10 PM
> Subject: [MMM] Re: Monz trip to Europe
>
>
> Hi Monz,
>
> I haven't yet done anything about the trip to Holland.
>
> However just today I thought I'd better look out the passport
> in case it needed to be renewed. Turned out it is still valid
> until 30th Sept 01 :-).

Ooh!... I'm glad you mentioned that! Whew!, mine is still valid
for 5 more years... but I did have to check!

> So only thing to do is to get the ticket, don't know how far
> in advance one needs to do that. I tend to leave things late.
> I expect I'll go by boat - like the fresh sea air and being on
> board a boat. Esp. so since I have a kind of hay fever like
> reaction to cigarette smoke, which makes fresh air useful -
> that may be worth mentioning in case any of you smoke - it gives
> me a bad headache and I'm not easily able to give full attention to
> discussion etc. after that.

Graham Breed has already told me that he has an aversion to
flying, mainly because of his environmental stance regarding
jet-fuel pollution. (And I agree with him, but I'm being
forced, by time and financial reasons, to be a hypocrite.)
Perhaps the two of you might want to coordinate your travel
plans from UK to Netherlands.

If you do decide to fly, you won't beat the fares from Ryanair
<www.ryanair.com>. They fly from UK to Brussels at incredibly
low rates. I'll be using Brussels as my gateway to Italy, and
so will have to do some ground transportation between Brussels,
Amsterdam, and Paris. I expect to be arriving back in Brussels
from Italy on September 17, and have to be back in Paris on the
21st. So that gives us roughly 3 days together in the Netherlands.

> Maybe an idea also to say in advance that I'm not much inspired
> by the idea of a "microtonal microsoft", being much more interested
> in idea of diversity of programs that all call each other, as FTS
> and SCALA call each other.
>
> It would be nice to be able to call up JM from FTS by passing a
> scale to it to show as a lattice, just as I can pass a scale
> to SCALA to show there and work with in SCALA.
>
> Then it is up to the programmers of JM to make it a nice program
> that users will want to linger in and explore once they have looked
> at the lattice. I imagine it will be if it is anything like the
> C++ version. That was near first release stage when I tried it.
>
> Hopefully you'll get a few FTS users sent your way, who download JM
> in order to enable the "show lattice in JM" button.
>
> I like to keep things small and diverse, and like idea of
> lots of programs calling each other.
>
> I think the web is much richer for its diversity, and one can think
> of programs as somewhat analagous to web pages. ONe comes across
> "universal" type web sites, and very useful they are too, but they
> are part of the diversity too!

Yes, originally (back in the mid-1980s) I had hoped that JustMusic
would be the be-all-and-end-all microtonal composition software
application, but I'm tending more and more these days to think
along the same lines as you. The programs that you, Graham, and
Manuel have already released can already do *so* much that I wanted
JustMusic to do, that this approach really makes a lot of sense.

> Anyway will be great to meet up with everyone, and sometimes
> the things that one least expects are the ones that are most
> valuable.

I'm certain that this trip, particularly the Netherlands segment
of it, is going to be one of the highpoints of my life.

love / peace / harmony ...

-monz
http://www.monz.org
"All roads lead to n^0"

_________________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @... address at http://mail.yahoo.com

> From: Jon Szanto <JSZANTO@...>
> To: <MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 4:18 PM
> Subject: [MMM] Re: Monz trip to Europe
>
>
> Hi Robert, Hi Monz!
>
> You guys really know how to be mean: here are all these other people
> who can't get away for a trip to Europe, and you two are making plans
> right in front of us! :)

Well... considering what else is going on in my life right now,
I really "can't" get away for this trip either! ... I'm forcing myself
to do this! :) (seriously, I am... if I wasn't already scheduled
into the conference I'd wait until I had more time and money)

> But seriously, folks, it's ok to make these public, since traffic is
> a little slow for now, but also please bear in mind the purpose of
> this little corner of the net and use your good judgement. Mainly, I
> just don't want to set any bad precedents for long, off-topic threads.

I know, Mom... sorry. We'll keep the rest of it off-list.
Mainly, I wanted to post that message here because I thought everyone
ought to know how cheap those Ryanair flights are! If you can
get to the UK or Brussels, you can go anywhere in Europe for about
$20 to $70 round-trip!!

> AND - I hope you'll both report back on the proceedings, regarding
> the software meetings and on the Monz's performance/lecture. Have a
> great trip!

OF COURSE! I'll be writing *reams* of stuff about what happens!
(and all on-topic!)

love / peace / harmony ...

-monz
http://www.monz.org
"All roads lead to n^0"

_________________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @... address at http://mail.yahoo.com