back to list

Re: [MMM] Digest Number 374

🔗Robert Walker <robertwalker@...>

8/20/2002 3:19:23 PM

Hey Stan,

> That's potentially great news! I'm very new to Gigastudio, so this is
> ALL new to me. I'm taking one last summer vacation and when I get
> back, I'll be putting myself through the paces to learn Gigastudio
> and add this to the mix. The big question is whether I would be able
> to set up a "template" of pitch bended notes that I can use over and
> over, or will every single note I play have to be manually pitch
> bended? Ina ny event, several microtonalists have now answered my
> plea, which is also good news for my prospects for getting Gigastudio
> intpo the microtonal realms in the Version 3.0. I'm very encouraged.
> Woreking on this alone, coming into it cold, has been very isolating,
> and finding a few like-minded souls on the internet is very
> heartwarming!

Basically it is pretty much like using tuning tables - in fact
a bit easier as you can just enter the scale you want to use
in cents / ratios notation in Fractal Tune Smithy, and then play
in it. So, you don't need to enter any pitch bends by hand -
you don't even need to work out the cents deviations
from 12-et.

The program works out the pitch bends to apply for
every note, and does them all for you. I think it
was Graham Breed who pioneered this approach - and
I came up with it independently in FTS without knowing
about his work. Manuel also does it with SCALA now.

FTS is freeware / shareware. It's $31 if one wants to purchase it
for Midi relaying only - I'm making a go at starting up a
business selling my software :-).

Anyway you can retune pieces of up to ten minutes at a time
for free (after ten minutes playing time you have to exit
the program and start a new session).

SCALA is completely free.

Each program has its particular strengths, so you can
try them both out and see which you get along with
best for your way of working (or use both...).

The home page for fts is
http://tunesmithy.co.uk

If you look under Features | Features for
musicians and composes you can read more about
some of the things it can do.

Yes, it's great the way that things are shaping up
with various moves in the way of wider support for
microtonal work :-).

Robert

----- Original Message -----
From: <MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com>
To: <MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 1:21 PM
Subject: [MMM] Digest Number 374

>
> [MMM info]------------------------------------------------------
> More MMM music files are at http://www.microtonal.org/music.html
> ------------------------------------------------------[MMM info]
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> There are 2 messages in this issue.
>
> Topics in this digest:
>
> 1. Re: Gigastudio Microtonal-friendly, part 2
> From: "fromtherealmoftheshadow" <fromtherealmoftheshadow@...>
> 2. Re: Gigastudio Microtonal-friendly, part 2
> From: "fromtherealmoftheshadow" <fromtherealmoftheshadow@...>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 13:52:16 -0000
> From: "fromtherealmoftheshadow" <fromtherealmoftheshadow@...>
> Subject: Re: Gigastudio Microtonal-friendly, part 2
>
> ---
> Thanks again Stan.
> Did I already reply to you? I think so, but if not, I have to say I'm
> new to Gigastudio and these samples. The Garritan Strings are
> absolutely fabulous, and so is Garritan harp. I'm not wild about the
> brass and winds out there for soloistic use, tho they sound pretty
> good in a full orchestral texture. Gary Garritan says he is working
> on winds and brass, so I will hold out until he gets his on the
> market.
> East West Sounds has audio CDs full of examples of how these sampled
> sounds can sounhd in the context of complete pieces.
> Hope this helps.
> Chris Mohr
>
> In MakeMicroMusic@y..., Stan Hoffman <stanhoffman@m...> wrote:
> > Very good news about GigaStudio--I've sent them an email
> encouraging them to
> > make it easy for the less technical among us.
> >
> > Can you recommend a sample library for solo orchestral instruments?
> I have a
> > big project to do quickly and the Xsample solo instruments I have,
> although
> > very good, are not useable "out of the box"--they require a great
> deal of
> > monkeying with to get them to sound right. Unfortunately, this is
> for
> > intimate chamber music texture, so ensemble sounds won't work.
> Thanks,
> >
> > Stan
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 14:01:14 -0000
> From: "fromtherealmoftheshadow" <fromtherealmoftheshadow@...>
> Subject: Re: Gigastudio Microtonal-friendly, part 2
>
> --- In MakeMicroMusic@y..., "Robert Walker" <robertwalker@n...> wrote:
> > Hi Chris,
> >
> > Probably you know this already, and of course tuning table like
> support
> > is much better if one can get it, but just in case it is new to you
> > it may be worth mentioning you can do microtonal work
> > in Giga using pitch bends.
> >
> > I've got a few examples up on my mp3.com web site.
> Hey Robert,
>
> That's potentially great news! I'm very new to Gigastudio, so this is
> ALL new to me. I'm taking one last summer vacation and when I get
> back, I'll be putting myself through the paces to learn Gigastudio
> and add this to the mix. The big question is whether I would be able
> to set up a "template" of pitch bended notes that I can use over and
> over, or will every single note I play have to be manually pitch
> bended? Ina ny event, several microtonalists have now answered my
> plea, which is also good news for my prospects for getting Gigastudio
> intpo the microtonal realms in the Version 3.0. I'm very encouraged.
> Woreking on this alone, coming into it cold, has been very isolating,
> and finding a few like-minded souls on the internet is very
> heartwarming!
> Chris Mohr>
>
>
> http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/330/robert_inventor.html
> > - the improvisation in Margo's sesquisexta, and the
> > 17-et improvisations at the end of the page, and the
> > octony lullaby, and improvisation in 55-et. The string
> > quartet is in twelve equal.
> >
> > The main thing is that many of the instruments are locked
> > with a pitch bend range of 0, and so don't respond to pitch
> > bends (or the pitch bend wheel), but you can unlock that
> >
> > What one does is to go to Edit Instument. Then in the Instrument
> Editor, go to
> > the Instrument Bank, right click on each instrument in turn,
> > look for the Pitch bend (semitones) field, and set this to 2.
> >
> > Now you can retune the Giga instruments using pitch bends
> > in FTS or SCALA. You can also bend the notes using the
> > pitch bend wheel.
> >
> > Robert
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>

🔗Robert Walker <robertwalker@...>

8/20/2002 9:58:32 PM

HI Jeff,

> I'm pretty sure I was the first out the gate with it by
> a few years -- first internet release was in 1994 & is documented in the
> tuning list archives, but the program was working and demonstrated
publically many years before that.

Well that's going back a fair way! I imagine you are
probably first.

When did Graham do his version?

I forgot to mention Fred Nachbaur's Midi utilities
which is useful for retuning midi clips - his program
is rather clever because it gets the scales
out of your SCALA archive zip.

Robert