Re: [MMM] A few replies...

I've been very busy of late and there's been a bunch of things I
would've liked to have comment on but haven't had the chance. Anyway,
I did want to take a second to let Mike know that I've very much
enjoyed his responses on a couple different topics recently--a very
articulate and measured guy!

thanks,

--Dan Stearns

----- Original Message -----
From: "Catharsis" <catharsis@...>
To: <MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 7:26 PM
Subject: [MMM] A few replies...

> At 04:01 PM 5/3/2002 +0000, you wrote:
> >Of course. I don't think *anything* Prent has done is "without
variation",
> >and even if it did, there are ways of "undue repetition" that
facilitate
> >other things. Much of the electronica and dance music, especially
Euro-tech
> >stuff, would easily fall into this category, but while it might
fail to
> >move 'composers' and educated/academic ears, it completely and
fully meets
> >its demands to move (and on the dance floor, to boot!) a large
populace.
> >You can't simply write it off.
>
> Exactly! EDM must be taken seriously. It is a large area of music
that is
> reaching younger generations; unlike microtonal or electro-acoustic
music,
> etc. Though EDM has a commercial mainstream side; there is a great
deal of
> music here that falls outside corporate mediation. I could offer an
> extended delineation of the importance of EDM, but it would be
fairly off
> topic. It plays a large roll in my "musical timeline".
>
> In brief: 95% of _mixing_ DJs do not challenge boundaries in a
technical or
> cultural manner. The majority of what is seen on the surface in
regard to
> electronic pop culture and the mainstream has no relation to
innovation
> occurring within the EDM "underground".
>
> DJing can be an _active_ pursuit and provide deep opportunities for
> interactive performance... It is too bad that those areas are not at
all
> popular. Unfortunately, booking around the world relies more on who
you
> know rather than the skill level of the individual.
>
> Several producers go beyond DJing and present live performances
within EDM
> as well; there is so much more to explore.
>
> >You lucky dog - with your SY! Boy - I'll bet it's great to have
those
> filters with FM! That's the only thing the X lacks.
>
> It is great to have an external filterbank (Sherman Filterbank,
Mutronics
> Mutator, perhaps the Akai MFC42; there are a bunch to be found from
> boutique audio companies in all price ranges.). Most synths have
pretty
> mediocre filtering capabilities; especially the digital analog
modelled ones!.
>
> In regard to computers as live instruments:
> >Not to mention they can't stand up to a good pounding when the
music really
> gets rockin'! Tools: they're only tools, not a panacea, eh?
>
> That is just an interface issue. An inventive composer/artist will
> find/create an interface that provides the right corporeal balance.
>
> >How many times has it happened to me and countless others I know?
You
> go into the studio to try to get something done, not noticing the
> Cosmic Joker of technology sitting over in the corner, you 'think'
> you are going to make music - but haa, haa, haa, the joke's on you!
>
> I think a good way to approach the studio is to separate the process
> between logical and creative efforts. Working with technology takes
a
> certain amount of preparation and analytical "juggling". I love
technology
> in regard to music making as there is a significant amount of
analytical
> problem solving, but great leeway with solutions (subjectivity of
music).
> Erm.. of course audio engineering technicalities may be less
forgiving.
>
> The studio is a musical instrument; it must be built, tuned, and
constantly
> maintained before it can be navigated creatively. By only going
halfway it
> is easy to get caught in "no mans land".
>
> >Cool - do you know if they are any closer to a PC version of Max?
>
> Here is an email I received a month ago regarding the PC release:
>
> ------------------------
> We're pleased to announce that the long-awaited Windows version of
Max/MSP is
> closer to shipping. We are currently estimating a release date of
October
> 2002. We will provide more details on the product and our progress
at the
> beginning of June. Here are some details on the project that might
be of
> interest to you.
> - based on the latest Max4/MSP2 versions
> - includes all of the same objects as the Mac version, with the
following
> exceptions: omsnames, omspatches, omscontrollers, cd~ (to be
released later)
> - reads and writes the same binary and text format patcher and data
files
> as the Mac version; collective files, which contain
processor-specific
> compiled code, will be platform-specific
> - audio support initially for ASIO, MME, and Direct Sound; ReWire,
VST, and
> DirectConnect to follow shortly after the initial release
> ------------------------
>
> Best,
> --Mike
>
>
> Egregious
> "Spiritual renewal through music for those outside the heard."
> http://www.egregious.net/
>
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