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Does anyone out there have/use any Native Instruments products for
microtonal work? I've had no luck talking with them via e-mail. They don't
seem interested in answering questions about microtonal capabilities of
their soft synth line...

I know their FM7 has some tuning capability, but before I plunk down any
money for a Native Instruments product, I'd like a lot more information on
the tuning capability. Like, if I can't supply my own tuning tables or tune
it with tables generated with Scala, it's not of much use to me...

Anyone know about the tuning capability of "Absynth"?

And I'm still impressed with the tuning interface to Peter Frazer's
"Midicode" synthesizer... (http://www.midicode.com) especially in its price
range.

Rick

🔗John Loffink <jloffink@...>

I've used Reaktor for microtonal work, but it requires a good degree of
customization. I'm not aware of any microtuning capability in Absynth.
I was likewise impressed with Midicode's built in tuning support. It is
very well done.

John Loffink
jloffink@...

>
> Does anyone out there have/use any Native Instruments products for
> microtonal work? I've had no luck talking with them via e-mail. They
don't
> seem interested in answering questions about microtonal capabilities
of
> their soft synth line...
>
> I know their FM7 has some tuning capability, but before I plunk down
any
> money for a Native Instruments product, I'd like a lot more
information on
> the tuning capability. Like, if I can't supply my own tuning tables or
> tune
> it with tables generated with Scala, it's not of much use to me...
>
> Anyone know about the tuning capability of "Absynth"?
>
> And I'm still impressed with the tuning interface to Peter Frazer's
> "Midicode" synthesizer... (http://www.midicode.com) especially in its
> price
> range.
>

🔗Alexandros Papadopoulos <alexmoog@...>

Absynth has some microtonal scales as presets , you cannot tune your own.

On Thursday, May 16, 2002, at 04:16 AM, John Loffink wrote:

> I've used Reaktor for microtonal work, but it requires a good degree of
> customization. I'm not aware of any microtuning capability in Absynth.
> I was likewise impressed with Midicode's built in tuning support. It is
> very well done.
>
> John Loffink
> jloffink@...
>
> >
> > Does anyone out there have/use any Native Instruments products for
> > microtonal work? I've had no luck talking with them via e-mail. They
> don't
> > seem interested in answering questions about microtonal capabilities
> of
> > their soft synth line...
> >
> > I know their FM7 has some tuning capability, but before I plunk down
> any
> > money for a Native Instruments product, I'd like a lot more
> information on
> > the tuning capability. Like, if I can't supply my own tuning tables or
> > tune
> > it with tables generated with Scala, it's not of much use to me...
> >
> > Anyone know about the tuning capability of "Absynth"?
> >
> > And I'm still impressed with the tuning interface to Peter Frazer's
> > "Midicode" synthesizer... (http://www.midicode.com) especially in its
> > price
> > range.
> >
>
>

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🔗Rick McGowan <rick@...>

--- Alexandros Papadopoulos <alexmoog@o...>
wrote:
> > Absynth has some microtonal scales as presets , you cannot tune
> your own.

Jacky replied:
> Well - that would qualify it as 100% useless. Makes one wonder what
> there selection of the chosen few tunings were.

Thanks for the info...

Well, maybe Absynth is only 99% useless, depending on what the pre-set
scales are! But it does basically answer my question. If you can't tune it
at will, it's not very useful to me.

> Strange - one would think that this new technology would allow more
> freedom, but alas, the reality is that we are as locked out with this
> stuff, for the most part, as much as hardware gear.

That's so true. Yet it should be so utterly easy to at least make the
programs read their frequency tables from a file!

I've done a bit of work with VAZ2001. It's OK for weird sounds, but I
don't much like the analog model, or the poor envelope control. I have been
thinking of getting either Absynth or VAZ modular (which is tunable).
Absynth sounds fairly useless for microtonal work... Anyone have experience
with VAZ modular? Is it fully tunable? Can it be easily used to do
high-quality FM synthesis? I'm most comfortable with FM, being a TX802 user
for so many years...

Rick

🔗Alexandros Papadopoulos <alexmoog@...>

Well , I have an early version of Absynth that came from a company other
than Native Instruments. NI must have bought it later.
It has 20-30 pre-programmed scales , I don't remember exactly which
since I have uninstalled it . As far as I remember it has just scales
some ET from 22 , 31 to 72 , farabi , Carlos and others.
I don't have the NI version but it seems identical from the
screenshots , so I believe the tuning capabilities are the same I fear.

On Thursday, May 16, 2002, at 02:50 PM, jacky_ligon wrote:

> --- In MakeMicroMusic@y..., Alexandros Papadopoulos <alexmoog@o...>
> wrote:
> > Absynth has some microtonal scales as presets , you cannot tune
> your own.
>
>
> Well - that would qualify it as 100% useless. Makes one wonder what
> there selection of the chosen few tunings were.
>
> Too bad and thanks for the info Alexandros.
>
> The only alternative for using these things in a truly microtonal
> manner, where you can tune up what you desire is to use FTS - and
> even here, the synth must be multi-timbral in order to play chords.
>
> There's some great synthesis tools out there with these softsynths,
> however some of the ones I like the most are not multi-timbral, so
> FTS can only make them useful for monophonic lines.
>
> I do think I remember Ab(ysmal)synth being multi-timbral though, so
> one could still use the pitch-bend paradigm.
>
> So far the only softsynth I've seen which really makes all this
> relatively easy to do is VAZ.
>
> Strange - one would think that this new technology would allow more
> freedom, but alas, the reality is that we are as locked out with this
> stuff, for the most part, as much as hardware gear.
>
> Ah - the sadness.
>
>
> J:L
>
>

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