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Four Pieces in Porcupine Temperament

🔗Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...>

12/31/2011 8:51:48 PM

http://chrisvaisvil.com/?p=1983

15 Porcupines in
India<http://micro.soonlabel.com/15-ET/daily20111231-porcupine15-indian.mp3>�
though the scale I use sounds somewhat more middle eastern I use
Sarangi,
Tambura, and Sitar from Garritan World sample set.

**15 Quills<http://micro.soonlabel.com/15-ET/daily20111231-porcupine15-piano.mp3>�
solo piano

**Prickly Side of
Love<http://micro.soonlabel.com/15-ET/daily20111231-porcupine15-prickly-side-of-love.mp3>�
a one keyboard band improvisation in Kontakt 4 � bass, drums, jazz
guitar
plus vocals.

**Gently Playing with Miller�s
Porcupine<http://micro.soonlabel.com/15-ET/daily20110619_millers_porcupine_7a.mp3>�
an improvisation in Porcupine from last June I didn�t bother to post.

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🔗prentrodgers <prentrodgers@...>

1/1/2012 9:47:14 AM

Very nice. I especially liked the piano ones, because they are so natural and very musical. You were able to draw out the sharp edges of the tuning beautifully in "Gently Playing with Miller's Porcupine".

http://micro.soonlabel.com/15-ET/daily20110619_millers_porcupine_7a.mp3

I liked the one with the Sarangi, Tambura, and Sitar, but less so. It sounded too much like someone playing samples on a keyboard, which of course they were. There are some idiosyncratic ways to play those instruments that were missing from your realization of them. In place of the slides, shakes, and hammer-on note changes typical of the sitar, I heard pianistic techniques: notes in scale order, every note with the same attack envelope, and chords that fit in the typical hand positions. That's not wrong, but you should be aware of it. These were all great to listen to nonetheless, because they were so musical.

Prent Rodgers

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...> wrote:
>
> http://chrisvaisvil.com/?p=1983
>
>
> 15 Porcupines in
> India<http://micro.soonlabel.com/15-ET/daily20111231-porcupine15-indian.mp3>–
> though the scale I use sounds somewhat more middle eastern I use
> Sarangi,
> Tambura, and Sitar from Garritan World sample set.
>
> **15 Quills<http://micro.soonlabel.com/15-ET/daily20111231-porcupine15-piano.mp3>–
> solo piano
>
> **Prickly Side of
> Love<http://micro.soonlabel.com/15-ET/daily20111231-porcupine15-prickly-side-of-love.mp3>–
> a one keyboard band improvisation in Kontakt 4 – bass, drums, jazz
> guitar
> plus vocals.
>
> **Gently Playing with Miller's
> Porcupine<http://micro.soonlabel.com/15-ET/daily20110619_millers_porcupine_7a.mp3>–
> an improvisation in Porcupine from last June I didn't bother to post.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

🔗Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...>

1/1/2012 7:12:19 PM

Hello Prent,

Thank you for the listen and extensive comments. FWIW "Gently Playing with
Miller's Porcupine" was played on guitar with my GR-20. Being primarily a
guitarist (though it is hurting to play more often and sooner with age) I
am aware of the techniques you talk about except for "shakes". I was
wondering if you could explain that.

Thanks,

Chris

On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 12:47 PM, prentrodgers <prentrodgers@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Very nice. I especially liked the piano ones, because they are so natural
> and very musical. You were able to draw out the sharp edges of the tuning
> beautifully in "Gently Playing with Miller's Porcupine".
>
> http://micro.soonlabel.com/15-ET/daily20110619_millers_porcupine_7a.mp3
>
> I liked the one with the Sarangi, Tambura, and Sitar, but less so. It
> sounded too much like someone playing samples on a keyboard, which of
> course they were. There are some idiosyncratic ways to play those
> instruments that were missing from your realization of them. In place of
> the slides, shakes, and hammer-on note changes typical of the sitar, I
> heard pianistic techniques: notes in scale order, every note with the same
> attack envelope, and chords that fit in the typical hand positions. That's
> not wrong, but you should be aware of it. These were all great to listen to
> nonetheless, because they were so musical.
>
> Prent Rodgers
>
>
> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > http://chrisvaisvil.com/?p=1983
> >
> >
> > 15 Porcupines in
> > India<
> http://micro.soonlabel.com/15-ET/daily20111231-porcupine15-indian.mp3>�
>
> > though the scale I use sounds somewhat more middle eastern I use
> > Sarangi,
> > Tambura, and Sitar from Garritan World sample set.
> >
> > **15 Quills<
> http://micro.soonlabel.com/15-ET/daily20111231-porcupine15-piano.mp3>�
> > solo piano
> >
> > **Prickly Side of
> > Love<
> http://micro.soonlabel.com/15-ET/daily20111231-porcupine15-prickly-side-of-love.mp3
> >�
>
> > a one keyboard band improvisation in Kontakt 4 � bass, drums, jazz
> > guitar
> > plus vocals.
> >
> > **Gently Playing with Miller's
> > Porcupine<
> http://micro.soonlabel.com/15-ET/daily20110619_millers_porcupine_7a.mp3>�
>
> > an improvisation in Porcupine from last June I didn't bother to post.
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

🔗prentrodgers <prentrodgers@...>

1/2/2012 8:45:39 AM

What I meant by shakes is better described as vibrato. I didn't hear any use of fast pitch changes normally heard when a guitarist or sitarist wags their fingers on a note. Wags and Shakes are not technical terms...

Prent Rodgers

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Prent,
>
> Thank you for the listen and extensive comments. FWIW "Gently Playing with
> Miller's Porcupine" was played on guitar with my GR-20. Being primarily a
> guitarist (though it is hurting to play more often and sooner with age) I
> am aware of the techniques you talk about except for "shakes". I was
> wondering if you could explain that.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris
>
> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 12:47 PM, prentrodgers <prentrodgers@...>wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Very nice. I especially liked the piano ones, because they are so natural
> > and very musical. You were able to draw out the sharp edges of the tuning
> > beautifully in "Gently Playing with Miller's Porcupine".
> >
> > http://micro.soonlabel.com/15-ET/daily20110619_millers_porcupine_7a.mp3
> >
> > I liked the one with the Sarangi, Tambura, and Sitar, but less so. It
> > sounded too much like someone playing samples on a keyboard, which of
> > course they were. There are some idiosyncratic ways to play those
> > instruments that were missing from your realization of them. In place of
> > the slides, shakes, and hammer-on note changes typical of the sitar, I
> > heard pianistic techniques: notes in scale order, every note with the same
> > attack envelope, and chords that fit in the typical hand positions. That's
> > not wrong, but you should be aware of it. These were all great to listen to
> > nonetheless, because they were so musical.
> >
> > Prent Rodgers
> >
> >
> > --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > http://chrisvaisvil.com/?p=1983
> > >
> > >
> > > 15 Porcupines in
> > > India<
> > http://micro.soonlabel.com/15-ET/daily20111231-porcupine15-indian.mp3>–
> >
> > > though the scale I use sounds somewhat more middle eastern I use
> > > Sarangi,
> > > Tambura, and Sitar from Garritan World sample set.
> > >
> > > **15 Quills<
> > http://micro.soonlabel.com/15-ET/daily20111231-porcupine15-piano.mp3>–
> > > solo piano
> > >
> > > **Prickly Side of
> > > Love<
> > http://micro.soonlabel.com/15-ET/daily20111231-porcupine15-prickly-side-of-love.mp3
> > >–
> >
> > > a one keyboard band improvisation in Kontakt 4 – bass, drums, jazz
> > > guitar
> > > plus vocals.
> > >
> > > **Gently Playing with Miller's
> > > Porcupine<
> > http://micro.soonlabel.com/15-ET/daily20110619_millers_porcupine_7a.mp3>–
> >
> > > an improvisation in Porcupine from last June I didn't bother to post.
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>