Drums in 12/8

Here's something I've been noodling around over the holidays. It's scored for balloon drums, finger pianos, flutes, & clarinets. The balloon drum and bass finger piano samples are new. The scale is a 15-limit just overtones, with changes on the undertones in the bridge.

http://bumpermusic.blogspot.com/2011/12/drums-in-128.html

Prent Rodgers

That is quite inventive and imaginative. Great!

On 28/12/11 12:28 PM, prentrodgers wrote:
>
> Here's something I've been noodling around over the holidays. It's
> scored for balloon drums, finger pianos, flutes, & clarinets. The
> balloon drum and bass finger piano samples are new. The scale is a
> 15-limit just overtones, with changes on the undertones in the bridge.
>
> http://bumpermusic.blogspot.com/2011/12/drums-in-128.html
>
> Prent Rodgers
>
>

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_'''''''_^South/Eastern Hemisphere:
Austronesian Outpost of Anaphoria <http://anaphoriasouth.blogspot.com/>

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On your site though i just get a grety rectangle which i wasn't sure if
it worked or not so i just went for the download link.

On 28/12/11 1:51 PM, kraiggrady wrote:
>
> That is quite inventive and imaginative. Great!
>
> On 28/12/11 12:28 PM, prentrodgers wrote:
> >
> > Here's something I've been noodling around over the holidays. It's
> > scored for balloon drums, finger pianos, flutes, & clarinets. The
> > balloon drum and bass finger piano samples are new. The scale is a
> > 15-limit just overtones, with changes on the undertones in the bridge.
> >
> > http://bumpermusic.blogspot.com/2011/12/drums-in-128.html
> >
> > Prent Rodgers
> >
> >
>
> --
>
> /^_,',',',_ //^/Kraig Grady_^_,',',',_
> Mesotonal Music from:
> _'''''''_ ^North/Western Hemisphere:
> North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>
>
> _'''''''_^South/Eastern Hemisphere:
> Austronesian Outpost of Anaphoria <http://anaphoriasouth.blogspot.com/>
>
> ',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',
>
> a momentary antenna as i turn to water
> this evaporates - an island once again
>
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>
>

--

/^_,',',',_ //^/Kraig Grady_^_,',',',_
Mesotonal Music from:
_'''''''_ ^North/Western Hemisphere:
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>

_'''''''_^South/Eastern Hemisphere:
Austronesian Outpost of Anaphoria <http://anaphoriasouth.blogspot.com/>

',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',

a momentary antenna as i turn to water
this evaporates - an island once again

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Very nice!

-Mike

On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 8:28 PM, prentrodgers <prentrodgers@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Here's something I've been noodling around over the holidays. It's scored
> for balloon drums, finger pianos, flutes, & clarinets. The balloon drum and
> bass finger piano samples are new. The scale is a 15-limit just overtones,
> with changes on the undertones in the bridge.
>
> http://bumpermusic.blogspot.com/2011/12/drums-in-128.html
>
> Prent Rodgers
>
>
>

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Prent, at 1:35, right before it goes back into the tonic, what chord are
you at? Is it a 4:5:6:7:9:11 chord played an 8/7 above the tonic?

-Mike

On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 4:28 AM, Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...>wrote:

> Very nice!
>
> -Mike
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 8:28 PM, prentrodgers <prentrodgers@...>wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Here's something I've been noodling around over the holidays. It's scored
>> for balloon drums, finger pianos, flutes, & clarinets. The balloon drum and
>> bass finger piano samples are new. The scale is a 15-limit just overtones,
>> with changes on the undertones in the bridge.
>>
>> http://bumpermusic.blogspot.com/2011/12/drums-in-128.html
>>
>> Prent Rodgers
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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The bridge is made up of 4:5:6:7:9:11:13:15 chords stepping through the undertone series, reordered as follows: 3:2, 8:5, 4:3, 3:2, 6:5, 4:3, 12:11, 1:1. So to answer your question, it's a 12:11 above the tonic. It stays there for two beats, all the others are one each.

Overtones:
C 1:1
D 9:8
E 5:4
F 11:8
G 3:2
A 13:8
B 7:4
B 15:8

Undertones:
C 1:1
D 12:11
E 6:5
F 4:3
G 3:2
A 8:5
A 12:7
B 24:13

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...> wrote:
>
> Prent, at 1:35, right before it goes back into the tonic, what chord are
> you at? Is it a 4:5:6:7:9:11 chord played an 8/7 above the tonic?
>
> -Mike
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 4:28 AM, Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...>wrote:
>
> > Very nice!
> >
> > -Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 8:28 PM, prentrodgers <prentrodgers@...>wrote:
> >
> >> **
> >>
> >>
> >> Here's something I've been noodling around over the holidays. It's scored
> >> for balloon drums, finger pianos, flutes, & clarinets. The balloon drum and
> >> bass finger piano samples are new. The scale is a 15-limit just overtones,
> >> with changes on the undertones in the bridge.
> >>
> >> http://bumpermusic.blogspot.com/2011/12/drums-in-128.html
> >>
> >> Prent Rodgers
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "prentrodgers" <prentrodgers@...> wrote:
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> Here's something I've been noodling around over the holidays.

I had the same experience as Kraig: the embedded player on your site isn't working for me. The piece, however, is. Bouncy!

hah hah, this is good and funny. Sort of like jungle boy theme. :)

Oz.

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www.ozanyarman.com

On Dec 28, 2011, at 6:22 PM, prentrodgers wrote:

> The bridge is made up of 4:5:6:7:9:11:13:15 chords stepping through the undertone series, reordered as follows: 3:2, 8:5, 4:3, 3:2, 6:5, 4:3, 12:11, 1:1. So to answer your question, it's a 12:11 above the tonic. It stays there for two beats, all the others are one each.
>
> Overtones:
> C 1:1
> D 9:8
> E 5:4
> F 11:8
> G 3:2
> A 13:8
> B 7:4
> B 15:8
>
> Undertones:
> C 1:1
> D 12:11
> E 6:5
> F 4:3
> G 3:2
> A 8:5
> A 12:7
> B 24:13
>
> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...> wrote:
>>
>> Prent, at 1:35, right before it goes back into the tonic, what chord are
>> you at? Is it a 4:5:6:7:9:11 chord played an 8/7 above the tonic?
>>
>> -Mike
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 4:28 AM, Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...>wrote:
>>
>>> Very nice!
>>>
>>> -Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 8:28 PM, prentrodgers <prentrodgers@...>wrote:
>>>
>>>> **
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here's something I've been noodling around over the holidays. It's scored
>>>> for balloon drums, finger pianos, flutes, & clarinets. The balloon drum and
>>>> bass finger piano samples are new. The scale is a 15-limit just overtones,
>>>> with changes on the undertones in the bridge.
>>>>
>>>> http://bumpermusic.blogspot.com/2011/12/drums-in-128.html
>>>>
>>>> Prent Rodgers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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How nice! Bumpy and airy and clear.

jn

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "prentrodgers" <prentrodgers@...> wrote:
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> Here's something I've been noodling around over the holidays. It's scored for balloon drums, finger pianos, flutes, & clarinets. The balloon drum and bass finger piano samples are new. The scale is a 15-limit just overtones, with changes on the undertones in the bridge.
>
> http://bumpermusic.blogspot.com/2011/12/drums-in-128.html
>
> Prent Rodgers
>

I've added a few new parts:
http://bumpermusic.blogspot.com/2011/12/drums-in-128-more-gliss-trills.html or http://tinyurl.com/7pe82dj

And I think I've fixed the player problem. Some of the finger piano parts go a little low, the glissandos take them down below audible. If anyone has a decent set of speakers, let me know if it works.

Prent

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Juhani" <jnylenius@...> wrote:
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> How nice! Bumpy and airy and clear.
>
> jn
>
> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "prentrodgers" <prentrodgers@> wrote:
> >
> > Here's something I've been noodling around over the holidays. It's scored for balloon drums, finger pianos, flutes, & clarinets. The balloon drum and bass finger piano samples are new. The scale is a 15-limit just overtones, with changes on the undertones in the bridge.
> >
> > http://bumpermusic.blogspot.com/2011/12/drums-in-128.html
> >
> > Prent Rodgers
> >
>

P,

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "prentrodgers" <prentrodgers@...> wrote:
> And I think I've fixed the player problem.

Works for me now, ta.

>Some of the finger piano parts go a little low, the glissandos take them down below audible. If anyone has a decent set of speakers, let me know if it works.

Well, I can take a digital out of the computer and pump it through my audio system, which has a nice subwoofer. Care to give a X:XX time mark for any spots you had in mind?

0:35 - 0:45 there is a bass finger piano that starts low and drops, then lower, and drops again, then lower still and drops a third time. There are lots of major triads on the 8:10:12 sliding down to 7:9:11 and visa versa.
Prent

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "jonszanto" <jszanto@...> wrote:
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> P,
>
> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "prentrodgers" <prentrodgers@> wrote:
> > And I think I've fixed the player problem.
>
> Works for me now, ta.
>
> >Some of the finger piano parts go a little low, the glissandos take them down below audible. If anyone has a decent set of speakers, let me know if it works.
>
> Well, I can take a digital out of the computer and pump it through my audio system, which has a nice subwoofer. Care to give a X:XX time mark for any spots you had in mind?
>

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "prentrodgers" <prentrodgers@...> wrote:
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> 0:35 - 0:45 there is a bass finger piano that starts low and drops, then lower, and drops again, then lower still and drops a third time. There are lots of major triads on the 8:10:12 sliding down to 7:9:11 and visa versa.

TBH: I didn't hear any 'drops' at the time marking you mention, though in other places I did. My computer setup has a halfway decent 2:1 system with a small bass cabinet, and is good for most casual listening. I took a digital output and ran it through my main audio sound system, which includes a 200w subwoofer, and... there is additional information. You really have run things off the low end, and the total effect doesn't come through unless you play it like this. Up to you what you decide to do, but using fairly smoothly-waved bass sounds going that low, you can't expect that to come through in a lot of situations.

Gee, just the same problem Partch had with the Marimba Eroica! :)

But Partch was able to *solve* it with carpentry.

Prent Rodgers

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "jonszanto" <jszanto@...> wrote:
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> Up to you what you decide to do, but using fairly smoothly-waved bass > sounds going that low, you can't expect that to come through in a lot > of situations.
>
> Gee, just the same problem Partch had with the Marimba Eroica! :)
>

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "prentrodgers" <prentrodgers@...> wrote:
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> But Partch was able to *solve* it with carpentry.

That was only the generation of the sound/pitch. What I was referring to was his classic lament about trying to record the Eroica, and then whether or not it would be reproduced properly for the listener. I believe his phrase was "Adequate playback equipment is essential!", and lamented that people not wealthy enough for said equipment wouldn't be able to experience "their backside being rippled by an art form."

(The quotes aren't exact, but I'm aure are very close)

So what I meant was that if the majority of listeners just listened on computer speaker setups, you'd lose some of your composed information, because the speaker systems simply couldn't adequately reproduce the low tones.

I remember the first time i hear the instrument live. It was quite
impressive how much power it had even at a low volume. I mean you really
felt it.
Somehow it was girl friend's sund system is when i heard them on
recording. somehow those JBLS did it more than my subwoofer.
I just got a turntable after 6 years and listening to The world of Harry
Partch and it reminded me how advanced he still is. Do you know Jon if
sony has any inkling of releasing these recordings?

On 2/01/12 6:36 PM, jonszanto wrote:
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> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:MakeMicroMusic%40yahoogroups.com>, "prentrodgers"
> <prentrodgers@...> wrote:
> >
> > But Partch was able to *solve* it with carpentry.
>
> That was only the generation of the sound/pitch. What I was referring
> to was his classic lament about trying to record the Eroica, and then
> whether or not it would be reproduced properly for the listener. I
> believe his phrase was "Adequate playback equipment is essential!",
> and lamented that people not wealthy enough for said equipment
> wouldn't be able to experience "their backside being rippled by an art
> form."
>
> (The quotes aren't exact, but I'm aure are very close)
>
> So what I meant was that if the majority of listeners just listened on
> computer speaker setups, you'd lose some of your composed information,
> because the speaker systems simply couldn't adequately reproduce the
> low tones.
>
>

--

/^_,',',',_ //^/Kraig Grady_^_,',',',_
Mesotonal Music from:
_'''''''_ ^North/Western Hemisphere:
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>

_'''''''_^South/Eastern Hemisphere:
Austronesian Outpost of Anaphoria <http://anaphoriasouth.blogspot.com/>

',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',

a momentary antenna as i turn to water
this evaporates - an island once again

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Kraig,

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, kraiggrady <kraiggrady@...> wrote:
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> I remember the first time i hear the instrument live. It was quite
> impressive how much power it had even at a low volume. I mean you really
> felt it.

Ha! I'm currently up in SF on holiday, and thought I'd relate this: in 1974 we did a tour of the West coast with "The Bewitched". We played San Jose in an old movie palace (where I first met Lou Harrison). After setting up, I was checking out the theatre with my friend Randy, and we were in the upper balcony when Will Jennings started playing his part on the Eroica on stage. All of a sudden, there was a chorus of buzzes and screeches all around us, like a bevy of cicadas. It turned out we were at a good spot for the wavelength of the lowest bar to coalesce, and all the loose screws and parts in the seats around us were buzzing and rattling!!

> Do you know Jon if
> sony has any inkling of releasing these recordings?

It took Philip Blackburn years of pestering and a fair amount of money to get then to allow "Delusion" to be put on CD. I'm not holding my breath, if that give you an answer. If I get much older, I'll just bootleg it, let Sony sue me if they find out, and become a homeless percussionist.

Cheers,
Jon