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the ORKA-M Phoenix, a new microtonal trumpet innovation TEST VIDEO

🔗prentrodgers <prentrodgers@...>

10/7/2011 8:42:34 AM

http://www.orka-m.com/institute/?p=437

First touch of the instrument. Stay till the end, at 2:29 when he plays high notes loudly. What he is so excited about is not so much the new notes as the new artifacts he can exploit for dramatic effect.

Here's what I heard at that point. The slide doesn't really change the note being played, since the higher overtones are available on different lengths of the tube. In other words, high C can be the 16th overtone of a low C fundamental, or the 15th overtone of low C#, or the 14th overtone of fundamental D. He gets some amazing artifacts as the tone being played shifts from one overtone of one fundamental to the other overtone of a different fundamental. It's those artifacts that are so exciting. The notes too, of course. But he's hearing a whole new instrument, not just new notes.

Prent Rodgers

🔗AARON <aaronhunt@...>

10/11/2011 6:41:27 AM

It wonder how this differs from Maynard Ferguson's Firebird trumpet:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firebird_(trumpet)

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "prentrodgers" <prentrodgers@...> wrote:
> http://www.orka-m.com/institute/?p=437
>
> First touch of the instrument. Stay till the end, at 2:29 when he plays high notes loudly. What he is so excited about is not so much the new notes as the new artifacts he can exploit for dramatic effect.
>
> Here's what I heard at that point. The slide doesn't really change the note being played, since the higher overtones are available on different lengths of the tube. In other words, high C can be the 16th overtone of a low C fundamental, or the 15th overtone of low C#, or the 14th overtone of fundamental D. He gets some amazing artifacts as the tone being played shifts from one overtone of one fundamental to the other overtone of a different fundamental. It's those artifacts that are so exciting. The notes too, of course. But he's hearing a whole new instrument, not just new notes.
>
> Prent Rodgers
>

🔗piccolosandcheese <udderbot@...>

10/11/2011 1:23:44 PM

In the video he comments about the difference the rotary valves make. Dunno if that's the only substantial difference.

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "AARON" <aaronhunt@...> wrote:
>
> It wonder how this differs from Maynard Ferguson's Firebird trumpet:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firebird_(trumpet)
>
>
>
>
> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "prentrodgers" <prentrodgers@> wrote:
> > http://www.orka-m.com/institute/?p=437
> >
> > First touch of the instrument. Stay till the end, at 2:29 when he plays high notes loudly. What he is so excited about is not so much the new notes as the new artifacts he can exploit for dramatic effect.
> >
> > Here's what I heard at that point. The slide doesn't really change the note being played, since the higher overtones are available on different lengths of the tube. In other words, high C can be the 16th overtone of a low C fundamental, or the 15th overtone of low C#, or the 14th overtone of fundamental D. He gets some amazing artifacts as the tone being played shifts from one overtone of one fundamental to the other overtone of a different fundamental. It's those artifacts that are so exciting. The notes too, of course. But he's hearing a whole new instrument, not just new notes.
> >
> > Prent Rodgers
> >
>

🔗Αλέξανδρος Παπαδόπουλος <alexandros.p.77@...>

10/12/2011 1:06:20 AM

This I think is similar to a soprano trombone, except that you can play faster due to valves.
I have a soprano trombone which is amazing, I wonder how it hasn't been more popular in microtonal contexts.
As for me, I can't practice it enough because it is loud(as all brass) and neighbors don't like it!

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🔗richard duckworth <richduckworth@...>

10/12/2011 1:34:39 AM

Great instrument! Congratulations!

Rich Duckworth

Lecturer in Music Technology

Department of Music

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Trinity College

Dublin 2

Ireland

Tel 353 1 896 1500

It's the most devastating moment in a young mans life, when he quite reasonably says to himself, "I shall never play The Dane!"

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From: Αλέξανδρος Παπαδόπουλος <alexandros.p.77@...>
Subject: Re: [MMM] Re: the ORKA-M Phoenix, a new microtonal trumpet innovation TEST VIDEO
To: MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 12 October, 2011, 9:06

 

This I think is similar to a soprano trombone, except that you can

play faster due to valves.

I have a soprano trombone which is amazing, I wonder how it hasn't

been more popular in microtonal contexts.

As for me, I can't practice it enough because it is loud(as all brass)

and neighbors don't like it!

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Alexandros Papadopoulos

P: 2310 868706

M: 697 2747136

Thessaloniki,

Greece

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