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I have been fighting a heck of a cold so its been difficult to do much of anything while sleeping.
Today I felt significantly better dug into my midi archive to listen to some music while working and the following renderings are an off-shoot of that.

I find this music, especially K030 to have the flavor of Bach. I don't know alot about this composer - but if you are interested:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domenico_Scarlatti The most important point with respect to the music is that he lived (26 October 1685 23 July 1757) and was in the cross-over between the Baroque and Classical musical style periods.

I rendered pieces K008 and K030. Two of the renderings are with harpsichord in Pythagorean tuning
K030 is explored further with an orchestral arrangement in Werckmeister III tuning and 3 piece Jazz band format (bass, electric piano, drums) in 12 equal.

The files are playable online here: http://chrisvaisvil.com/?p=890

Or you can download them here:

http://clones.soonlabel.com/public/classical-music/d_scarlatti_k008_pythagorean.mp3
http://clones.soonlabel.com/public/classical-music/d_scarlatti_k030_12edo_band.mp3
http://clones.soonlabel.com/public/classical-music/d_scarlatti_k030_pythagorean.mp3
http://clones.soonlabel.com/public/classical-music/d_scarlatti_k030_wreckmeisterIIIorchestral.mp3

I hope you have a good day,

Chris

🔗Daniel Forró <dan.for@...>

Scarlatti was Baroque composer. Main points are:
- he was very original composer with unusual and quite innovative
ideas far ahead his times
- he composed about 550 keyboard "sonatas" (different type of sonata
then classical and later) where he used bizarre and unusual motifs,
very often inspired by Spanish folk music, unusual harmonic
progressions and unusual modulations, lot of chromatics
- he used lot of new ways of playing keyboard - distant jumps,
crossing the hands, quickly repeated notes, octaves, tone clusters...

His music is quite different than Bach or Handel. They were composers
doing style synthesis, but Scarlatti was experimenting and one style
composer.

I always perform some of his works at my recitals.

Daniel Forro

On May 27, 2011, at 5:27 AM, christopherv wrote:

> I find this music, especially K030 to have the flavor of Bach. I
> don't know alot about this composer - but if you are interested:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domenico_Scarlatti The most
> important point with respect to the music is that he lived (26
> October 1685 – 23 July 1757) and was in the cross-over between the
> Baroque and Classical musical style periods.
>
> I rendered pieces K008 and K030. Two of the renderings are with
> harpsichord in Pythagorean tuning
> – K030 is explored further with an orchestral arrangement in
> Werckmeister III tuning and 3 piece Jazz band format (bass,
> electric piano, drums) in 12 equal.
>
> The files are playable online here: http://chrisvaisvil.com/?p=890
>
> Or you can download them here:
>
> http://clones.soonlabel.com/public/classical-music/
> d_scarlatti_k008_pythagorean.mp3
> http://clones.soonlabel.com/public/classical-music/
> d_scarlatti_k030_12edo_band.mp3
> http://clones.soonlabel.com/public/classical-music/
> d_scarlatti_k030_pythagorean.mp3
> http://clones.soonlabel.com/public/classical-music/
> d_scarlatti_k030_wreckmeisterIIIorchestral.mp3
>
> I hope you have a good day,
>
> Chris

🔗Carl Lumma <carl@...>

Chris wrote:

>I find this music, especially K030 to have the flavor of Bach.

That does sound especially Bach-flavored. But generally, the
direction of influence was the opposite. Italian music was the
hot thing at the time, and Bach is known to have been especially
fond of it. He transcribed concerti of Vivaldi and others for
keyboard, and wrote the famous Italian Concerto as a homage to
the style.

-Carl

🔗Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...>

Hi Daniel,

Do you know off hand any "k" numbers I should search out that you consider progressive? I'd love to take a listen.

Thanks,

Chris
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His music is quite different than Bach or Handel. They were composers
doing style synthesis, but Scarlatti was experimenting and one style
composer.

I always perform some of his works at my recitals.

Daniel Forro

On May 27, 2011, at 5:27 AM, christopherv wrote:

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🔗Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...>

Ok, thanks on that. As I remember we were taught JS Bach was supposed to be a bit of a man out of time and summaized the Baroque when the classical style was developed around him. Your statement would tend to back that up.

Chris
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Chris wrote:

>I find this music, especially K030 to have the flavor of Bach.

-Carl

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🔗Carl Lumma <carl@...>

Chris wrote:
>Ok, thanks on that. As I remember we were taught JS Bach was supposed
>to be a bit of a man out of time and summaized the Baroque when the
>classical style was developed around him. Your statement would tend to
>back that up.

That's also true, especially toward the end of his life
and with his sons writing in the classical style. Check
out this one by WF Bach
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wiki_naxos_8.553289_01_16.ogg
and this one by JC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wiki_naxos_8.553084_01_16.ogg

But in the case of Scarlatti it was fashionable baroque music
from another region being an influence. Bach also wrote long
tributes to the English style
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_suites
and French style
http://www.amazon.com/Bach-French-Suites-Johann-Sebastian/dp/B0000041ZG/

Of course they are still very much Bach!

-Carl

🔗Daniel Forró <dan.for@...>

Chris,

recently I'm just busy as in three days I start to Europe, for Czech concert tour, and will return home in the middle of June.

So just Kirkpatrick numbers of some sonatas I like and perform, without detailed analysis or points:

4, 8, 9, 19, 30, 31, 49, 51, 52, 63, 64, 67, 69, 87, 96,
119, 126, 139, 141, 149, 159, 173, 175,
202, 235, 244, 246, 283, 284,
319, 371, 375, 380, 386, 394,
405, 419, 426, 429, 430, 438, 446, 450, 451, 487,
513, 533, 545

Daniel Forro

On May 27, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Chris Vaisvil wrote:

> Hi Daniel,
>
> Do you know off hand any "k" numbers I should search out that you > consider progressive? I'd love to take a listen.
>
> Thanks,

🔗Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...>

Thank you so much! Especially with your tour coming up. I wish you every success!

I should have some of those or can go to the classical midi archive (I like reading the score as the music plays) or if needed youtube. I have maybe 8 or 10 Scarlatti midi files in my possession. I'm a bit sick and didn't get past those 2 today.

Chris
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Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 13:23:57
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Subject: Re: [MMM] Domenico Scarlatti

Chris,

recently I'm just busy as in three days I start to Europe, for Czech
concert tour, and will return home in the middle of June.

So just Kirkpatrick numbers of some sonatas I like and perform,
without detailed analysis or points:

Daniel Forro

On May 27, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Chris Vaisvil wrote:

> Hi Daniel,
>
> Do you know off hand any "k" numbers I should search out that you
> consider progressive? I'd love to take a listen.
>
> Thanks,

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🔗Daniel Forró <dan.for@...>

Thanks, Chris.

If I'm not wrong there are all Scarlatti sonatas somewhere on the net. I think I've got them but forgot where it was from. I can send you later...

And probably the best source for scores is <imslp.org>.

Daniel Forro

On May 27, 2011, at 1:38 PM, Chris Vaisvil wrote:

> Thank you so much! Especially with your tour coming up. I wish you > every success!
>
> I should have some of those or can go to the classical midi archive > (I like reading the score as the music plays) or if needed > youtube. I have maybe 8 or 10 Scarlatti midi files in my > possession. I'm a bit sick and didn't get past those 2 today.
>
> Chris

🔗Herman Miller <hmiller@...>

On 5/26/2011 4:27 PM, christopherv wrote:
> I have been fighting a heck of a cold so its been difficult to do
> much of anything while sleeping. Today I felt significantly better
> dug into my midi archive to listen to some music while working and
> the following renderings are an off-shoot of that.
>
> I find this music, especially K030 to have the flavor of Bach. I
> don't know alot about this composer - but if you are interested:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domenico_Scarlatti The most important
> point with respect to the music is that he lived (26 October 1685 ï¿½
> 23 July 1757) and was in the cross-over between the Baroque and
> Classical musical style periods.

Ah, the "Cat Fugue". Yeah, that does sound like Bach.

Many years ago, I started on an arrangement of one of Scarlatti's sonatas, L. 429 in A minor. I had an unusual combination of instruments... Well, it's an interesting sound, but I think I could have used less of the accordion. I only got as far as the first half, but I took what I had and rendered it in 1/4-comma meantone with the Garritan ARIA Player.

http://sites.google.com/site/teamouse/L429.mp3

http://sites.google.com/site/teamouse/

🔗Aaron Krister Johnson <aaron@...>

I've played that Scarlatti sonata...it's a very interesting one, from the
point of view of rather dissonant "clusters"; it's also one of the more
difficult ones to really nail and make 'glisten' effortlessly...

I'm not convinced by 1/4-comma meantone for this one, though. I rather think
a mild well-temperament seems right, but this is a subjective area. If it
was truly a 1/4-comma piece, Scarlatti was not only a genius, he was
half-mad and a real rebel!

AKJ

On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Herman Miller <hmiller@io.com> wrote:

> On 5/26/2011 4:27 PM, christopherv wrote:
> > I have been fighting a heck of a cold so its been difficult to do
> > much of anything while sleeping. Today I felt significantly better
> > dug into my midi archive to listen to some music while working and
> > the following renderings are an off-shoot of that.
> >
> > I find this music, especially K030 to have the flavor of Bach. I
> > don't know alot about this composer - but if you are interested:
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domenico_Scarlatti The most important
> > point with respect to the music is that he lived (26 October 1685 –
> > 23 July 1757) and was in the cross-over between the Baroque and
> > Classical musical style periods.
>
> Ah, the "Cat Fugue". Yeah, that does sound like Bach.
>
> Many years ago, I started on an arrangement of one of Scarlatti's
> sonatas, L. 429 in A minor. I had an unusual combination of
> instruments... Well, it's an interesting sound, but I think I could have
> used less of the accordion. I only got as far as the first half, but I
> took what I had and rendered it in 1/4-comma meantone with the Garritan
> ARIA Player.
>
> http://sites.google.com/site/teamouse/L429.mp3
>
> http://sites.google.com/site/teamouse/
>
>
>
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Aaron Krister Johnson
http://www.akjmusic.com
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