Rationale 0.3.0

Hi everyone.

I've just uploaded a new version of Rationale at
https://sourceforge.net/projects/rationale/

If you used Rationale in the past and encountered bugs, there's a good chance they've been fixed. I fixed a lot of bugs and unexpected behavior for this release (over the last year). There are a few functional improvements too. I was holding back on publishing it because I wanted to include MIDI support in the next release, but that's stalled and still way off. I'm sorry for that.
It also doesn't look like I'll be able to spend much time on Rationale or microtonal music in the near future, so this could end up being the last version. That's not so useful for those who want to use MIDI, but for anyone who used Rationale before, it should be much more reliable now.

-Chuckk

I am informed to install Tkinter as Tk. Any easy way to do it?

raceback (most recent call last):
File "rationale.py", line 22, in <module>
import Tkinter as tk
File
"/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/lib-tk/Tkinter.py",
line 39, in <module>
import _tkinter # If this fails your Python may not be configured
for Tk
ImportError: No module named _tkinter

Oz.

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www.ozanyarman.com

touchedchuckk wrote:
> Hi everyone.
>
> I've just uploaded a new version of Rationale at
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/rationale/
>
> If you used Rationale in the past and encountered bugs, there's a good chance they've been fixed. I fixed a lot of bugs and unexpected behavior for this release (over the last year). There are a few functional improvements too. I was holding back on publishing it because I wanted to include MIDI support in the next release, but that's stalled and still way off. I'm sorry for that.
> It also doesn't look like I'll be able to spend much time on Rationale or microtonal music in the near future, so this could end up being the last version. That's not so useful for those who want to use MIDI, but for anyone who used Rationale before, it should be much more reliable now.
>
> -Chuckk
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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Hi Ozan. How are things in Istanbul? I'm currently in Bucharest. I'd love to visit there some day.

So you have Python 2.6, which should be good, and it is able to find Tkinter.py, which is definitely good, but it's strange that it can't get any further. A couple questions:
Did you have Python installed before, or did you just install it?
What operating system are you using? Mac, by any chance?

If you are using the version of Python that came installed on the computer, it might help to install a version from www.python.org.
I just installed 2.7 on Linux, and Rationale seems to work okay. When I just installed the Python 2.7 package, incidentally, it gave me the same error you had; after I installed a separate Tk package, it worked. If you download either 2.6 or 2.7 from the Python website, Tk should be automatically included.
http://www.python.org/download/

If you want more detailed help, you can contact me at badmuthahubbard (at) hotmail (dot) com, I'll be glad to help with installation or usage.

-Chuckk

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...> wrote:
>
> I am informed to install Tkinter as Tk. Any easy way to do it?
>
> raceback (most recent call last):
> File "rationale.py", line 22, in <module>
> import Tkinter as tk
> File
> "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/lib-tk/Tkinter.py",
> line 39, in <module>
> import _tkinter # If this fails your Python may not be configured
> for Tk
> ImportError: No module named _tkinter
>
> Oz.
>
>
> --
>
> ✩ ✩ ✩
> www.ozanyarman.com
>
>
> touchedchuckk wrote:
> > Hi everyone.
> >
> > I've just uploaded a new version of Rationale at
> > https://sourceforge.net/projects/rationale/
> >
> > If you used Rationale in the past and encountered bugs, there's a good chance they've been fixed. I fixed a lot of bugs and unexpected behavior for this release (over the last year). There are a few functional improvements too. I was holding back on publishing it because I wanted to include MIDI support in the next release, but that's stalled and still way off. I'm sorry for that.
> > It also doesn't look like I'll be able to spend much time on Rationale or microtonal music in the near future, so this could end up being the last version. That's not so useful for those who want to use MIDI, but for anyone who used Rationale before, it should be much more reliable now.
> >
> > -Chuckk
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hi Chuckk,

I did as you said and installed Python 2.6.6 from the developer's site.
I think I had an earlier version before this one. Yes, I'm using a
Macbook Pro with Snow Leopard. However, I now get this error:

Ozan-Yarmans-MacBook-Pro:rationale03_0 ozanyarman$ python rationale.py
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "rationale.py", line 41, in <module>
import csnd
ImportError: No module named csnd
Ozan-Yarmans-MacBook-Pro:rationale03_0 ozanyarman$

Now I understand I must import the Csound module. Can you help once more?

Thanks!
Oz.

--

✩ ✩ ✩
www.ozanyarman.com

touchedchuckk wrote:
> Hi Ozan. How are things in Istanbul? I'm currently in Bucharest. I'd love to visit there some day.
>
> So you have Python 2.6, which should be good, and it is able to find Tkinter.py, which is definitely good, but it's strange that it can't get any further. A couple questions:
> Did you have Python installed before, or did you just install it?
> What operating system are you using? Mac, by any chance?
>
> If you are using the version of Python that came installed on the computer, it might help to install a version from www.python.org.
> I just installed 2.7 on Linux, and Rationale seems to work okay. When I just installed the Python 2.7 package, incidentally, it gave me the same error you had; after I installed a separate Tk package, it worked. If you download either 2.6 or 2.7 from the Python website, Tk should be automatically included.
> http://www.python.org/download/
>
> If you want more detailed help, you can contact me at badmuthahubbard (at) hotmail (dot) com, I'll be glad to help with installation or usage.
>
> -Chuckk
>
>
> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Ozan Yarman<ozanyarman@...> wrote:
>> I am informed to install Tkinter as Tk. Any easy way to do it?
>>
>> raceback (most recent call last):
>> File "rationale.py", line 22, in<module>
>> import Tkinter as tk
>> File
>> "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/lib-tk/Tkinter.py",
>> line 39, in<module>
>> import _tkinter # If this fails your Python may not be configured
>> for Tk
>> ImportError: No module named _tkinter
>>
>> Oz.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> ✩ ✩ ✩
>> www.ozanyarman.com
>>
>>
>> touchedchuckk wrote:
>>> Hi everyone.
>>>
>>> I've just uploaded a new version of Rationale at
>>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/rationale/
>>>
>>> If you used Rationale in the past and encountered bugs, there's a good chance they've been fixed. I fixed a lot of bugs and unexpected behavior for this release (over the last year). There are a few functional improvements too. I was holding back on publishing it because I wanted to include MIDI support in the next release, but that's stalled and still way off. I'm sorry for that.
>>> It also doesn't look like I'll be able to spend much time on Rationale or microtonal music in the near future, so this could end up being the last version. That's not so useful for those who want to use MIDI, but for anyone who used Rationale before, it should be much more reliable now.
>>>
>>> -Chuckk
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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Hi again Oz.

Try:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/files/csound5/csound5.13/
for whichever OSX version you have. It's good that you installed Python first, because if you install Csound first it doesn't know where to find Python. This way it should install automatically.
Does that make it work?
Good luck!

-Chuckk

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Chuckk,
>
> I did as you said and installed Python 2.6.6 from the developer's site.
> I think I had an earlier version before this one. Yes, I'm using a
> Macbook Pro with Snow Leopard. However, I now get this error:
>
> Ozan-Yarmans-MacBook-Pro:rationale03_0 ozanyarman$ python rationale.py
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "rationale.py", line 41, in <module>
> import csnd
> ImportError: No module named csnd
> Ozan-Yarmans-MacBook-Pro:rationale03_0 ozanyarman$
>
> Now I understand I must import the Csound module. Can you help once more?
>
> Thanks!
> Oz.
>
>
> --
>
> ✩ ✩ ✩
> www.ozanyarman.com
>
>
> touchedchuckk wrote:
> > Hi Ozan. How are things in Istanbul? I'm currently in Bucharest. I'd love to visit there some day.
> >
> > So you have Python 2.6, which should be good, and it is able to find Tkinter.py, which is definitely good, but it's strange that it can't get any further. A couple questions:
> > Did you have Python installed before, or did you just install it?
> > What operating system are you using? Mac, by any chance?
> >
> > If you are using the version of Python that came installed on the computer, it might help to install a version from www.python.org.
> > I just installed 2.7 on Linux, and Rationale seems to work okay. When I just installed the Python 2.7 package, incidentally, it gave me the same error you had; after I installed a separate Tk package, it worked. If you download either 2.6 or 2.7 from the Python website, Tk should be automatically included.
> > http://www.python.org/download/
> >
> > If you want more detailed help, you can contact me at badmuthahubbard (at) hotmail (dot) com, I'll be glad to help with installation or usage.
> >
> > -Chuckk
> >
> >
> > --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Ozan Yarman<ozanyarman@> wrote:
> >> I am informed to install Tkinter as Tk. Any easy way to do it?
> >>
> >> raceback (most recent call last):
> >> File "rationale.py", line 22, in<module>
> >> import Tkinter as tk
> >> File
> >> "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/lib-tk/Tkinter.py",
> >> line 39, in<module>
> >> import _tkinter # If this fails your Python may not be configured
> >> for Tk
> >> ImportError: No module named _tkinter
> >>
> >> Oz.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> âÅ"© âÅ"© âÅ"©
> >> www.ozanyarman.com
> >>
> >>
> >> touchedchuckk wrote:
> >>> Hi everyone.
> >>>
> >>> I've just uploaded a new version of Rationale at
> >>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/rationale/
> >>>
> >>> If you used Rationale in the past and encountered bugs, there's a good chance they've been fixed. I fixed a lot of bugs and unexpected behavior for this release (over the last year). There are a few functional improvements too. I was holding back on publishing it because I wanted to include MIDI support in the next release, but that's stalled and still way off. I'm sorry for that.
> >>> It also doesn't look like I'll be able to spend much time on Rationale or microtonal music in the near future, so this could end up being the last version. That's not so useful for those who want to use MIDI, but for anyone who used Rationale before, it should be much more reliable now.
> >>>
> >>> -Chuckk
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>