Re: [MMM] Re: tramps and thieves

> From: <jpehrson@...>
> To: <MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 6:44 PM
> Subject: [MMM] Re: tramps and thieves
>
>
> Surely your points are well taken. I guess I was mostly saying that
> *personally* I don't care for quotation, and it seems Kraig doesn't
> as well.
>
> But, I wasn't thinking *at all* of Ives. Certainly he's
> a "different" case and I would also strongly disagree with Carter in
> this matter...
>
> George Crumb and George Rochberg are two *other* composers who have
> also used quotation to extremely creative effect....

Hi Joe,

I've been reading the stuff about Ives's use of quotation, and
all thru this discussion have been thinking of Mahler in the
same regard. This is yet another aspect of their compositional
styles that links these two great composers. (It never stops
amazing me how many similarities can be found between Mahler
and Ives... at least, concerning their respective music and the
way they thought about it.)

Also, again speaking of rap, I wanted to note that Public Enemy
(my all-time fave #1 rap group... ha -- another pun) made *terrific*
and *wildly creative* use of samples/quotations, mainly from
James Brown, but also from lots of other places.

I've only dabbled in this sort of thing myself, the most obvious
example being a bite I took out of the opening of Mahler's 6th,
last movement, for the start of the funky wedding march I wrote
for my own wedding back in '92, and I tossed in a favorite lick
from Eric Clapton's _Layla_ on the violin part in the last section.
http://www.ixpres.com/interval/monzo/worklist/wedfunk.mp3
(sorry about the low fidelity... I had to compromise quality
for the sake of size)

love / peace / harmony ...

-monz
http://www.monz.org
"All roads lead to n^0"

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