Mike Battaglia "Machine" scale in 17 et

A while back Mike posted this scale in 17 ET

! C:\Program Files\Scala22\scl\machine-11-17.scl
!
Machine Temperament, 11 out of 17-equal
11
!
70.58824
211.76471
282.35294
423.52941
494.11765
635.29412
705.88235
847.05882
917.64706
1058.82353
2/1

What I did was use small post-it dots to "map" the scale on my 17 ET electric guitar as seen in this photo. (The colors mean *nothing*)

http://micro.soonlabel.com/17-ET/daily20110311-4machine_tuning_17et_IMG00037.jpg

And using my loop station I laid down a soft jazz rhythm track and then played some leads over it. Of course there are mistakes but the scale is almost all of the time (I'm guessing).

download
http://micro.soonlabel.com/17-ET/daily20110311-4machine-loop.mp3

online play
http://chrisvaisvil.com/?p=561

Very nice, Chris, thanks for this! You should try experimenting with
this scale in the 4.7.9.11 subgroup context as well - play an
approximate 4:7:9:11 and transpose it up and down the scale. That's
where I really feel it shines.

-Mike

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 1:58 PM, christopherv <chrisvaisvil@...> wrote:
>
> A while back Mike posted this scale in 17 ET
>
> ! C:\Program Files\Scala22\scl\machine-11-17.scl
> !
> Machine Temperament, 11 out of 17-equal
> 11
> !
> 70.58824
> 211.76471
> 282.35294
> 423.52941
> 494.11765
> 635.29412
> 705.88235
> 847.05882
> 917.64706
> 1058.82353
> 2/1
>
> What I did was use small post-it dots to "map" the scale on my 17 ET electric guitar as seen in this photo. (The colors mean *nothing*)
>
> http://micro.soonlabel.com/17-ET/daily20110311-4machine_tuning_17et_IMG00037.jpg
>
> And using my loop station I laid down a soft jazz rhythm track and then played some leads over it. Of course there are mistakes but the scale is almost all of the time (I'm guessing).
>
> download
> http://micro.soonlabel.com/17-ET/daily20110311-4machine-loop.mp3
>
> online play
> http://chrisvaisvil.com/?p=561

Hi Mike,

I don't know how to translate the overtone series notation to scale steps in
17 - or machine scale - could you give me one 4:7:9:11 voicing?

Thanks,

Chris

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...>wrote:

>
>
> Very nice, Chris, thanks for this! You should try experimenting with
> this scale in the 4.7.9.11 subgroup context as well - play an
> approximate 4:7:9:11 and transpose it up and down the scale. That's
> where I really feel it shines.
>
> -Mike
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 1:58 PM, christopherv <chrisvaisvil@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > A while back Mike posted this scale in 17 ET
> >
> > ! C:\Program Files\Scala22\scl\machine-11-17.scl
> > !
> > Machine Temperament, 11 out of 17-equal
> > 11
> > !
> > 70.58824
> > 211.76471
> > 282.35294
> > 423.52941
> > 494.11765
> > 635.29412
> > 705.88235
> > 847.05882
> > 917.64706
> > 1058.82353
> > 2/1
> >
> > What I did was use small post-it dots to "map" the scale on my 17 ET
> electric guitar as seen in this photo. (The colors mean *nothing*)
> >
> >
> http://micro.soonlabel.com/17-ET/daily20110311-4machine_tuning_17et_IMG00037.jpg
> >
> > And using my loop station I laid down a soft jazz rhythm track and then
> played some leads over it. Of course there are mistakes but the scale is
> almost all of the time (I'm guessing).
> >
> > download
> > http://micro.soonlabel.com/17-ET/daily20110311-4machine-loop.mp3
> >
> > online play
> > http://chrisvaisvil.com/?p=561
>
>

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Something like 0 14 20 25 is 4:7:9:11, or C Bb D F^ where F^ means
1\17 sharp of F. You'll want to play around with 4:7:9:11:13 too,
which is 0 14 20 25 29 or C Bb D F^ Av, where Av is 1\17 flat of A.

-Mike

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...> wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> I don't know how to translate the overtone series notation to scale steps in
> 17 - or machine scale - could you give me one 4:7:9:11 voicing?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris
>
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Very nice, Chris, thanks for this! You should try experimenting with
>> this scale in the 4.7.9.11 subgroup context as well - play an
>> approximate 4:7:9:11 and transpose it up and down the scale. That's
>> where I really feel it shines.
>>
>> -Mike
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 1:58 PM, christopherv <chrisvaisvil@...>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > A while back Mike posted this scale in 17 ET
>> >
>> > ! C:\Program Files\Scala22\scl\machine-11-17.scl
>> > !
>> > Machine Temperament, 11 out of 17-equal
>> > 11
>> > !
>> > 70.58824
>> > 211.76471
>> > 282.35294
>> > 423.52941
>> > 494.11765
>> > 635.29412
>> > 705.88235
>> > 847.05882
>> > 917.64706
>> > 1058.82353
>> > 2/1
>> >
>> > What I did was use small post-it dots to "map" the scale on my 17 ET
>> electric guitar as seen in this photo. (The colors mean *nothing*)
>> >
>> >
>> http://micro.soonlabel.com/17-ET/daily20110311-4machine_tuning_17et_IMG00037.jpg
>> >
>> > And using my loop station I laid down a soft jazz rhythm track and then
>> played some leads over it. Of course there are mistakes but the scale is
>> almost all of the time (I'm guessing).
>> >
>> > download
>> > http://micro.soonlabel.com/17-ET/daily20110311-4machine-loop.mp3
>> >
>> > online play
>> > http://chrisvaisvil.com/?p=561
>>
>>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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>
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>
>
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--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...> wrote:
>
> Very nice, Chris, thanks for this! You should try experimenting with
> this scale in the 4.7.9.11 subgroup context as well - play an
> approximate 4:7:9:11 and transpose it up and down the scale. That's
> where I really feel it shines.

You can check out machine and the very closely related supra (which can also be played in 17) here:

http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/Chromatic+pairs#Supra

Mike,

Those chords are playable but not the most comfortable with the wat my
guitar is tuned.
Let my try with the GR-20 in machine mode. Do you know off hand the scale
degrees in machine?

Chris

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...>wrote:

>
>
> Something like 0 14 20 25 is 4:7:9:11, or C Bb D F^ where F^ means
> 1\17 sharp of F. You'll want to play around with 4:7:9:11:13 too,
> which is 0 14 20 25 29 or C Bb D F^ Av, where Av is 1\17 flat of A.
>
> -Mike
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...>
> wrote:
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > I don't know how to translate the overtone series notation to scale steps
> in
> > 17 - or machine scale - could you give me one 4:7:9:11 voicing?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...
> >wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Very nice, Chris, thanks for this! You should try experimenting with
> >> this scale in the 4.7.9.11 subgroup context as well - play an
> >> approximate 4:7:9:11 and transpose it up and down the scale. That's
> >> where I really feel it shines.
> >>
> >> -Mike
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 1:58 PM, christopherv <chrisvaisvil@...>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > A while back Mike posted this scale in 17 ET
> >> >
> >> > ! C:\Program Files\Scala22\scl\machine-11-17.scl
> >> > !
> >> > Machine Temperament, 11 out of 17-equal
> >> > 11
> >> > !
> >> > 70.58824
> >> > 211.76471
> >> > 282.35294
> >> > 423.52941
> >> > 494.11765
> >> > 635.29412
> >> > 705.88235
> >> > 847.05882
> >> > 917.64706
> >> > 1058.82353
> >> > 2/1
> >> >
> >> > What I did was use small post-it dots to "map" the scale on my 17 ET
> >> electric guitar as seen in this photo. (The colors mean *nothing*)
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> http://micro.soonlabel.com/17-ET/daily20110311-4machine_tuning_17et_IMG00037.jpg
> >> >
> >> > And using my loop station I laid down a soft jazz rhythm track and
> then
> >> played some leads over it. Of course there are mistakes but the scale is
> >> almost all of the time (I'm guessing).
> >> >
> >> > download
> >> > http://micro.soonlabel.com/17-ET/daily20110311-4machine-loop.mp3
> >> >
> >> > online play
> >> > http://chrisvaisvil.com/?p=561
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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Try 1-10-14-17. If you have the scale tuned such that all generators
are going up, this won't appear on scale degree 0, you'll get
something sounding more like a sus chord instead.

-Mike

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...> wrote:
> Mike,
>
> Those chords are playable but not the most comfortable with the wat my
> guitar is tuned.
> Let my try with the GR-20 in machine mode.  Do you know off hand the scale
> degrees in machine?
>
> Chris
>
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Something like 0 14 20 25 is 4:7:9:11, or C Bb D F^ where F^ means
>> 1\17 sharp of F. You'll want to play around with 4:7:9:11:13 too,
>> which is 0 14 20 25 29 or C Bb D F^ Av, where Av is 1\17 flat of A.
>>
>> -Mike
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi Mike,
>> >
>> > I don't know how to translate the overtone series notation to scale steps
>> in
>> > 17 - or machine scale - could you give me one 4:7:9:11 voicing?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Chris
>> >
>> > On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Very nice, Chris, thanks for this! You should try experimenting with
>> >> this scale in the 4.7.9.11 subgroup context as well - play an
>> >> approximate 4:7:9:11 and transpose it up and down the scale. That's
>> >> where I really feel it shines.
>> >>
>> >> -Mike
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 1:58 PM, christopherv <chrisvaisvil@...>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > A while back Mike posted this scale in 17 ET
>> >> >
>> >> > ! C:\Program Files\Scala22\scl\machine-11-17.scl
>> >> > !
>> >> > Machine Temperament, 11 out of 17-equal
>> >> > 11
>> >> > !
>> >> > 70.58824
>> >> > 211.76471
>> >> > 282.35294
>> >> > 423.52941
>> >> > 494.11765
>> >> > 635.29412
>> >> > 705.88235
>> >> > 847.05882
>> >> > 917.64706
>> >> > 1058.82353
>> >> > 2/1
>> >> >
>> >> > What I did was use small post-it dots to "map" the scale on my 17 ET
>> >> electric guitar as seen in this photo. (The colors mean *nothing*)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> http://micro.soonlabel.com/17-ET/daily20110311-4machine_tuning_17et_IMG00037.jpg
>> >> >
>> >> > And using my loop station I laid down a soft jazz rhythm track and
>> then
>> >> played some leads over it. Of course there are mistakes but the scale is
>> >> almost all of the time (I'm guessing).
>> >> >
>> >> > download
>> >> > http://micro.soonlabel.com/17-ET/daily20110311-4machine-loop.mp3
>> >> >
>> >> > online play
>> >> > http://chrisvaisvil.com/?p=561
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
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