Plunderphonics

--- In MakeMicroMusic@y..., "D.Stearns" <STEARNS@C...> wrote:

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>
> Anyway, for anyone who might be interested here's an interesting
view
> and scholarly history of the plunderphonic movement (so to speak) by
> an creative thinker and topnotch modern musician, Recommended
Records'
> Chris Cutler:
>
> <http://www.l-m-c.org.uk/LMCframeset3.html>
>
>
> --Dan Stearns

Thanks to Dan Stearns for this *very* enlightening article on
sampling... Some other interesting articles in this magazine, too.

Plundering is, seemingly, the way of the future...

The Internet, Napster, etc., etc.

Right now, the economic model means that these things have to be shut
down.

HOWEVER, if we lived in a futuristic society where, somehow, all our
needs were provided for, and information could be a *common* or
*shared* resource, then we would *all* own what *each* one of us
creates.

The individual ego would be melded into the common organism.

We can see glimpses of this already happening... but it is far too
soon...

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Joseph Pehrson

--- In MakeMicroMusic@y..., "D.Stearns" <STEARNS@C...> wrote:

/makemicromusic/topicId_unknown.html#276

> Musical plunderphonia as a serious means to a viable end is nothing
> new: Modernism considerably upped the ante long ago, but these basic
> ideas have actually been around a long, long, long time indeed...
>
> --Dan Stearns

Well, and I suppose that the use of scurrilous popular songs as the
basis for the cantus firmi of religious masses during the Renaissance
would fit this pattern as well. Margo could fill us in more on these
practices....

________ ________ ______
Joseph Pehrson

> From: jpehrson@...

> --- In MakeMicroMusic@y..., "D.Stearns" <STEARNS@C...> wrote:

>> and scholarly history of the plunderphonic movement (so to speak) by
>> an creative thinker and topnotch modern musician, Recommended
> Records'
>> Chris Cutler:

Thanks for posting this article. It looks like there's a lot of other good
stuff at that site. It has been common practice among great jazz players to
quote from other standards all the time in their solos.

> Plundering is, seemingly, the way of the future...
>
> The Internet, Napster, etc., etc.
>
> Right now, the economic model means that these things have to be shut
> down.

I've wondered for a few years now at the phenomenum of sampling by
non-instrument playing composers. Sooner or later, if new people don't learn
to play instruments, and if new composers can't afford to record their work
as everyone wants to download it from Napster for free, we'll eventually run
out of music to sample. All music will become merely samples of samples of
samples...

This could be the end of music as we know it, until sometime in the future a
few eccentric loners read manuscripts about the archaic practice of actually
"playing" an "instrument", and with careful study try to build and learn to
play instruments and re-create this for themselves...

Seth

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