Re: tramps and thieves

--- In MakeMicroMusic@y..., "D.Stearns" <STEARNS@C...> wrote:

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> Joseph Pehrson wrote,
>
> <<it's no different than traditional "quotation" in a score. I find
> them both the same... not terribly creative.>>
>
> Hi Joseph, Kraig, and everybody,
>
> Personally I don't think it's a good idea to take the formal act as
> either 'too creative' or 'not too terribly creative'. I'd much
rather at least try to tackle each scenario individually -- what's
trying to be accomplished artistically, creatively; what's the
broader context; what's it sound like, does the composer-sound
organizer kick butt or suck eggs?
>
> In Swafford's Ives biography he posits that Carter could never come
to terms with Ives use of quotations. It's obviously all too possible
> that something can kick butt and suck eggs simply depending upon
where you stand. Time will prove Carter wrong though in my opinion.

Hi Dan!

Surely your points are well taken. I guess I was mostly saying that
*personally* I don't care for quotation, and it seems Kraig doesn't
as well.

But, I wasn't thinking *at all* of Ives. Certainly he's
a "different" case and I would also strongly disagree with Carter in
this matter...

George Crumb and George Rochberg are two *other* composers who have
also used quotation to extremely creative effect....

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