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🔗George Zelenz <ploo@...>

3/1/2002 5:54:33 PM

Xenometric confusion. Let me know if my diagram got all screwed up on your
pooters. Mine sure did.
GZ

George Zelenz wrote:

> >
> >
> > Fascinating. Now with this musical scenario, was the difficulty from
> > the irregular pulses, or was it the cycle in itself?
> >
> > If the latter, do you find that the more remote a rhythmic cycle is
> > from a 2 based cycle, it becomes more difficult to play?
> >
> > Like - would you say that 13 is more difficult than 17?
> >
> > Just curious,
> >
> > Jacky
>
> Feral one,
>
> For me, any meter is easy, as long as whatever the part is makes sense
> melodically. By that I mean, If there is a loop or repeating figure, I just
> keep that in my mind, or sing along with the part (inaudible) as I play. No
> matter what the meter/s, I'm on track because I'm listening to the structure
> melodically, not just counting combo's of 2 and 3, which is a kind of
> crutch, and leads many composers to (imho) stilted odd time music. Zappa is
> a good for instance. Whether its 19/16 or 7/8, Zappa always had his odd time
> broken down into those 2 and 3 combos. It all starts to sound the same to me
> after awhile. Dave Holland does this alot, although I forgive him because he
> is such a beautiful person, and not a shabby composer.
>
> Get out yer manuscript paper, and dig this.
>
> 1 an 2 an 3 4 e an ah 5 6 7
> Q. Q.
> C C r dotted r
> A A e 1/8 e
> s rest G s
> t F t
> E
>
> This is a bass part in 7/4. Once you get the "song" or "melody" of it, its
> easy to know where you are, and feel comfortable. The quarter rest at the
> end of this ex. is important, becauseto me, its like the gong tone in a
> gamelan balungan.
>
> Doo doo daa daa da-boom boom (gong) Rinse,
> lather, repeat.
> 1 an 2 an 3, 4 e an ah 5 6 7
>
> For me, that 7 is like a one. I can throw down there, the absence is so
> strong.
>
> I'm glad I found a more painful way to notate than normal western practice.
> Everybody should learn Indonesian cipher and get on with it. IMHO.
>
> I could write a book about rhythm here, but then everyone would quit the
> list.
>
> Viva tenacity!
>
> George
>
>
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