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Twisted Arpeggios

🔗Jim K <kukulaj@...>

1/2/2011 2:29:35 PM

I wrote a sort of tuning autobiography which folks here might find entertaining:

http://interdependentscience.blogspot.com/2011/01/twisted-arpeggios.html

🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

1/2/2011 4:13:38 PM

Hi Jim~!
Thanks for sharing.
It explains quite a bit i didn't know.
Do you know of anyone else who has noticed the 90 et of the 10 harmonic?
Also i remember you had some other pieces which i thought were quite good that worked with some sort of algorithm that walked around 53.
i really think you should put these up to.

/^_,',',',_ //^/Kraig Grady_^_,',',',_
Mesotonal Music from:
_'''''''_ ^North/Western Hemisphere:
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_'''''''_^South/Eastern Hemisphere:
Austronesian Outpost of Anaphoria <http://anaphoriasouth.blogspot.com/>

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this evaporates - an island once again

On 3/01/11 9:29 AM, Jim K wrote:
>
> I wrote a sort of tuning autobiography which folks here might > find entertaining:
>
> http://interdependentscience.blogspot.com/2011/01/twisted-arpeggios.html
>
>

🔗Jim K <kukulaj@...>

1/3/2011 5:39:02 AM

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...> wrote:
> Do you know of anyone else who has noticed the 90 et of the 10
> harmonic?

No, I have never caught wind of anybody else suggesting it. Maybe because after all it isn't so good!

7/6 is 6.0252 steps
5/3 is 19.9664 steps

but

3/2 is 15.84 steps

About as far off as a third in 12-edo, but that is not high flattery.

It's fun though just to think about chopping up something other than the octave. One elementary silly idea is to chop a fifth into 7 steps, i.e. something extremely conventional, but just a little off.

> Also i remember you had some other pieces which i thought were
> quite good that worked with some sort of algorithm that walked
> around 53.

Is that artsong.org site down? This I think was the best - I just uploaded it again - now I pay for my own site!

http://interdependentscience.com/music/b6t9s.html

Thanks,
Jim

🔗Jim K <kukulaj@...>

1/3/2011 5:48:54 AM

> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@> wrote:

> > Also i remember you had some other pieces which i thought were
> > quite good that worked with some sort of algorithm that walked
> > around 53.
>

Trying to get the URL right:

http://interdependentscience.com/music/b6t9.mp3

🔗Carl Lumma <carl@...>

1/3/2011 1:07:32 PM

Hi Jim,

I read your autobio and you seem to have approached the issue
far more generally than most of your contemporaries (in the '70s?).
In particular, not many were using weighted error, and even fewer
considered the entire spectrum of step sizes.

>It's fun though just to think about chopping up something other than
>the octave.

Folks around here have investigated this deeply. Such discussion
is usually more appropriate on the main list
/tuning/
If you're a member, feel free to reply over there.

>No, I have never caught wind of anybody else suggesting it. Maybe
>because after all it isn't so good!
>
>7/6 is 6.0252 steps
>5/3 is 19.9664 steps
>
>but
>
>3/2 is 15.84 steps

These step values seem too small for an ET where 5/1 is 90 steps.
Around here we use "vals" to exactly specify mappings to primes.
I've given a few in recent posts. They are generally written as
bra vectors. See here for more:
http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/Vals+and+Tuning+Space

The best 2.3.5.7 mapping with 5/1 = 90 looks to me like

< 39 62 90 109 |

-Carl

🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

1/3/2011 2:07:29 PM

I always like this!:)

/^_,',',',_ //^/Kraig Grady_^_,',',',_
Mesotonal Music from:
_'''''''_ ^North/Western Hemisphere:
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>

_'''''''_^South/Eastern Hemisphere:
Austronesian Outpost of Anaphoria <http://anaphoriasouth.blogspot.com/>

',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',

a momentary antenna as i turn to water
this evaporates - an island once again

On 4/01/11 12:48 AM, Jim K wrote:
>
>
> > --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:MakeMicroMusic%40yahoogroups.com>, Kraig Grady > <kraiggrady@> wrote:
>
> > > Also i remember you had some other pieces which i thought > were
> > > quite good that worked with some sort of algorithm that > walked
> > > around 53.
> >
>
> Trying to get the URL right:
>
> http://interdependentscience.com/music/b6t9.mp3
>
>