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🔗jonszanto <jszanto@...>

12/21/2010 7:35:44 PM

I have to jump in as well.

I've been virtually absent through unending duties in the Real World. I'd love to have time to post, and I'd love to have time to listen - and I mean REALLY listen - but it just isn't possible right now. If I get a chance to do a quick scan of the list when it comes in digest form, I'm pretty lucky.

Chris, I'm seconding the others: you'll find few people as supportive of the fellow creative artist than Kraig. I am dead *certain* his comment was meant along the lines of controlling your materials, doing revisions and editing, and looking hard at your 'children' and knowing the point at which they are speaking what they are meant to speak and leaving it there.

I'd love to have given you a bit more feedback, but I think it is unhelpful to get something from me which wouldn't amount to much more than "hey, I listened to your piece". And what Carl said is true: the number of places work is posted may make it seem sparse. I really like the Xen forum, because it is certainly a better platform, with inline players and everything. On the other hand, I posted just one piece there and got precisely Zero comments.

Keep it up, keep it up. It's for you, not us! If I've missed it, scold me, but it would also be cool if you have a personal site or space where all of these resided, so that if we miss them in passing we might - at a future date - come back to listen.

I'm reminded of John Maxwell Hobbs epic achievement, Daily Ambience, where he created a new piece of music (virtually) every day for a full year, along with documentation of the process. You can still check it all out in archived blog form:

http://www.cinemavolta.com/daily/

There is No Way he could have gotten, nor expected, feedback on everything. In a similar vein, I'm sure you are learning and growing through your own efforts. Please know that you have a supportive audience around you, even if the arduous nature of having lives crammed with responsibilities beyond control keep some of us from being stellar 'reporters-at-large'.

Keep on. Your muse is strong.

Best,
Jon

🔗Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...>

12/21/2010 7:56:11 PM

Jon,

I couldn't find your post on my forum w/o a comment. Could you point me to
it?

I'm not at all upset with Kraig - he is someone from whom I have *lots* to
learn from.

I do have a site devoted to mostly more serious / xenharmonic work:

www.chrisvaisvil.com

And you are right - I am doing it for me. Sometimes though I feel a bit sad
to see things pass us by on these lists without a comment - and even more
sad that with limited time I too have stopped listening so I can
compose.(ImprovFriday is especially hard to keep up with) I actually do a
great deal of listening and try to comment on all I listen to - even a
"sounds great!" is enough to let someone know they were listened to and I
think that is important.

Chris

On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 10:35 PM, jonszanto <jszanto@...> wrote:

>
>
> I have to jump in as well.
>
> I've been virtually absent through unending duties in the Real World. I'd
> love to have time to post, and I'd love to have time to listen - and I mean
> REALLY listen - but it just isn't possible right now. If I get a chance to
> do a quick scan of the list when it comes in digest form, I'm pretty lucky.
>
> Chris, I'm seconding the others: you'll find few people as supportive of
> the fellow creative artist than Kraig. I am dead *certain* his comment was
> meant along the lines of controlling your materials, doing revisions and
> editing, and looking hard at your 'children' and knowing the point at which
> they are speaking what they are meant to speak and leaving it there.
>
> I'd love to have given you a bit more feedback, but I think it is unhelpful
> to get something from me which wouldn't amount to much more than "hey, I
> listened to your piece". And what Carl said is true: the number of places
> work is posted may make it seem sparse. I really like the Xen forum, because
> it is certainly a better platform, with inline players and everything. On
> the other hand, I posted just one piece there and got precisely Zero
> comments.
>
> Keep it up, keep it up. It's for you, not us! If I've missed it, scold me,
> but it would also be cool if you have a personal site or space where all of
> these resided, so that if we miss them in passing we might - at a future
> date - come back to listen.
>
> I'm reminded of John Maxwell Hobbs epic achievement, Daily Ambience, where
> he created a new piece of music (virtually) every day for a full year, along
> with documentation of the process. You can still check it all out in
> archived blog form:
>
> http://www.cinemavolta.com/daily/
>
> There is No Way he could have gotten, nor expected, feedback on everything.
> In a similar vein, I'm sure you are learning and growing through your own
> efforts. Please know that you have a supportive audience around you, even if
> the arduous nature of having lives crammed with responsibilities beyond
> control keep some of us from being stellar 'reporters-at-large'.
>
> Keep on. Your muse is strong.
>
> Best,
> Jon
>
>
>

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🔗jonszanto <jszanto@...>

12/21/2010 8:50:44 PM

Chris,

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...> wrote:
> I couldn't find your post on my forum w/o a comment. Could you point me to
> it?

It's not important at all, but if you happened to miss it, it is in the 22edo thread.

> I do have a site devoted to mostly more serious / xenharmonic work:
>
> www.chrisvaisvil.com

I'll check it out. Unless service space is tight, consider putting up anything you post up there in one basic area. Can't hurt (unless you want to keep "works-in-progress" just as occasional forum/email posts, and not something to be archived).

> Sometimes though I feel a bit sad
> to see things pass us by on these lists without a comment

Oh, I agree, completely. Hell, I didn't start the list to have a forum to *ignore* music! :)

So, how about a small poll:

===================================
HEY, MAKE MICRO LIST - LISTEN UP!!!
===================================

Let's see a show of hands (virtually):
- Who among you would prefer even a short acknowledgement of a posting of your music?
- How many prefer only fully-commented remarks on your creation?
- How many don't have a care either way?

Cheers,
Jon

🔗Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...>

12/22/2010 3:11:53 AM

Jon,

I forgot

http://micro.soonlabel.com/

This has practically everything I've done micro - and some pieces of others
whom have asked me to host their work.

and if you go up a level

http://clones.soonlabel.com/public/

There is more music / video / resources.

As far as the poll goes - comments are great when its done because someone
feels strongly about the piece one way or the other. Certainly should never
be a requirement IMHO.

Chris

PS - found it!!

> I couldn't find your post on my forum w/o a comment. Could you point me to
> it?

It's not important at all, but if you happened to miss it, it is in the
22edo thread.

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🔗Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...>

12/22/2010 3:21:26 AM

For everyone else's here is Jon's excellent improvisation in 22 edo

online playable

http://notonlymusic.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=609&p=4283#p4088

downloadable
http://notonlymusic.com/board/download/file.php?id=1711

Chris

On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 6:11 AM, Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...> wrote:
>
> PS - found it!!
>
>> I couldn't find your post on my forum w/o a comment. Could you point me to
>> it?
>
> It's not important at all, but if you happened to miss it, it is in the
> 22edo thread.
>
>
>

🔗genewardsmith <genewardsmith@...>

12/22/2010 4:35:18 PM

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "jonszanto" <jszanto@...> wrote:

>I really like the Xen forum, because it is certainly a better platform, with inline players and everything. On the other hand, I posted just one piece there and got precisely Zero comments.

I might like it too if I knew what it was; evidently it isn't Xen.org.

🔗chrisvaisvil@...

12/22/2010 4:41:22 PM

He is talking about the forum on
www.notonlymusic.com

I believe you already have an account.
*

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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 00:35:18
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Subject: [MMM] Re: Missing Commentage...

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "jonszanto" <jszanto@...> wrote:

>I really like the Xen forum, because it is certainly a better platform, with inline players and everything. On the other hand, I posted just one piece there and got precisely Zero comments.

I might like it too if I knew what it was; evidently it isn't Xen.org.

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🔗genewardsmith <genewardsmith@...>

12/22/2010 5:33:55 PM

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...> wrote:
>
> Jon,
>
> I forgot
>
> http://micro.soonlabel.com/
>
> This has practically everything I've done micro - and some pieces of others
> whom have asked me to host their work.

Cool! I think I'll add some links to the Xenwiki, and maybe change some others.