Semimarvelous Blue Drawf

Online play and tuning

http://chrisvaisvil.com/?p=314

download

http://micro.soonlabel.com/Semimarvelous_dwarf/semimarvelous-piano.mp3

This is a solo piano piece performed on a M-Audio 88es driving pianoteq which was re-tuned to Gene Ward Smith's 17 per octave equal beating dwarf(<17 27 40|). The piece was originally recorded in pianoteq using the standalone mode and then brought into Sonar 8.5 to edit some stray notes, change a chord, and correct some timing issues (some of those still exist).

Cool.
Has a very strong jazz/blues feel to it.
Sounds like the 1/1 5/4 3/2 7/4 chords are indicated with your playing in
this temperament very well.
However some notes sound very out of tune to me (though there aren't many of
them)
Have you considered trying something like this in pure JI.
May I suggest a chain of 1/1 5/4 3/2 7/4 chords linked in pure fifths.
Like 16/9 10/9 4/3 14/9, 4/3 5/3 2/1 7/6, 1/1 5/4 3/2 7/4, 3/2 15/8 9/8
21/16, 9/8 45/32 27/16 63/32 etc.

-Marcel

> Online play and tuning
>
> http://chrisvaisvil.com/?p=314
>
> download
>
> http://micro.soonlabel.com/Semimarvelous_dwarf/semimarvelous-piano.mp3
>
> This is a solo piano piece performed on a M-Audio 88es driving pianoteq
> which was re-tuned to Gene Ward Smith's 17 per octave equal beating
> dwarf(<17 27 40|). The piece was originally recorded in pianoteq using the
> standalone mode and then brought into Sonar 8.5 to edit some stray notes,
> change a chord, and correct some timing issues (some of those still exist).

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Thanks for the listen and comment Marcel!

I'd be happy to email you the midi file if you'd like to take a shot at
porting it over to straight JI.

Chris

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Marcel de Velde <m.develde@...>wrote:

>
>
> Cool.
> Has a very strong jazz/blues feel to it.
> Sounds like the 1/1 5/4 3/2 7/4 chords are indicated with your playing in
> this temperament very well.
> However some notes sound very out of tune to me (though there aren't many
> of
> them)
> Have you considered trying something like this in pure JI.
> May I suggest a chain of 1/1 5/4 3/2 7/4 chords linked in pure fifths.
> Like 16/9 10/9 4/3 14/9, 4/3 5/3 2/1 7/6, 1/1 5/4 3/2 7/4, 3/2 15/8 9/8
> 21/16, 9/8 45/32 27/16 63/32 etc.
>
> -Marcel
>
>
> > Online play and tuning
> >
> > http://chrisvaisvil.com/?p=314
> >
> > download
> >
> > http://micro.soonlabel.com/Semimarvelous_dwarf/semimarvelous-piano.mp3
> >
> > This is a solo piano piece performed on a M-Audio 88es driving pianoteq
> > which was re-tuned to Gene Ward Smith's 17 per octave equal beating
> > dwarf(<17 27 40|). The piece was originally recorded in pianoteq using
> the
> > standalone mode and then brought into Sonar 8.5 to edit some stray notes,
> > change a chord, and correct some timing issues (some of those still
> exist).
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> Thanks for the listen and comment Marcel!
>
> I'd be happy to email you the midi file if you'd like to take a shot at
> porting it over to straight JI.
>
>
Ah yes I'd love to but I don't have the time :(
I have such a big to do list for tuning related stuff it'll be 2 months
before I get it all done.
I could do the first few chords just so we can hear how it'd sound.

-Marcel

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ok, I'm emailing the first 8 measures.

Now remember the file I will be sending is in 12 equal - I loaded Gene's
tuning into pianoteq which handled all of the retuning for me.
The scala file I used is at www.chrisvaisvil.com

Chris

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Marcel de Velde <m.develde@gmail.com>wrote:

>
>
> > Thanks for the listen and comment Marcel!
> >
> > I'd be happy to email you the midi file if you'd like to take a shot at
> > porting it over to straight JI.
> >
> >
> Ah yes I'd love to but I don't have the time :(
> I have such a big to do list for tuning related stuff it'll be 2 months
> before I get it all done.
> I could do the first few chords just so we can hear how it'd sound.
>
> -Marcel
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Enjoyable tuning that while does not sound like just to my ear ( no one said it was supposed to either) it has its own flavor.
It sounds like it is a 12 tone piece dropped into this tuning? would love to hear more with the tuning used for what it is.
Or at least those corners where we just got a glimpse. fun

/^_,',',',_ //^/Kraig Grady_^_,',',',_
Mesotonal Music from:
_'''''''_ ^North/Western Hemisphere:
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>

_'''''''_^South/Eastern Hemisphere:
Austronesian Outpost of Anaphoria <http://anaphoriasouth.blogspot.com/>

',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',

a momentary antenna as i turn to water
this evaporates - an island once again

On 11/11/10 1:09 AM, christopherv wrote:
>
>
> Online play and tuning
>
> http://chrisvaisvil.com/?p=314
>
> download
>
> http://micro.soonlabel.com/Semimarvelous_dwarf/semimarvelous-piano.mp3
>
> This is a solo piano piece performed on a M-Audio 88es driving > pianoteq which was re-tuned to Gene Ward Smith's 17 per octave > equal beating dwarf(<17 27 40|). The piece was originally > recorded in pianoteq using the standalone mode and then > brought into Sonar 8.5 to edit some stray notes, change a > chord, and correct some timing issues (some of those still exist).
>
>

Hi Kraig. Its not a retuned 12edo piece. Going from 12 to 17 notes would necessitate lots of fussing. I totally agree with youir observation that this tuning offers much more. In the same vein the fingering for those chords get complicated as well.

I'm hoping my AXiS49 will be useful for tasks as these.

Chris
*

-----Original Message-----
From: Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@anaphoria.com>
Sender: MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 08:51:39
To: <MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com>
Reply-To: MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MMM] Semimarvelous Blue Drawf

Enjoyable tuning that while does not sound like just to my ear (
no one said it was supposed to either) it has its own flavor.
It sounds like it is a 12 tone piece dropped into this tuning?
would love to hear more with the tuning used for what it is.
Or at least those corners where we just got a glimpse. fun

/^_,',',',_ //^/Kraig Grady_^_,',',',_
Mesotonal Music from:
_'''''''_ ^North/Western Hemisphere:
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>

_'''''''_^South/Eastern Hemisphere:
Austronesian Outpost of Anaphoria
<http://anaphoriasouth.blogspot.com/>

',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',

a momentary antenna as i turn to water
this evaporates - an island once again

On 11/11/10 1:09 AM, christopherv wrote:
>
>
> Online play and tuning
>
> http://chrisvaisvil.com/?p=314
>
> download
>
> http://micro.soonlabel.com/Semimarvelous_dwarf/semimarvelous-piano.mp3
>
> This is a solo piano piece performed on a M-Audio 88es driving
> pianoteq which was re-tuned to Gene Ward Smith's 17 per octave
> equal beating dwarf(<17 27 40|). The piece was originally
> recorded in pianoteq using the standalone mode and then
> brought into Sonar 8.5 to edit some stray notes, change a
> chord, and correct some timing issues (some of those still exist).
>
>

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Like with my centaur tuning, i recommend dropping this into a few other keys to get a feel for things.
possibly Gene might have suggestions knowing the tuning

/^_,',',',_ //^/Kraig Grady_^_,',',',_
Mesotonal Music from:
_'''''''_ ^North/Western Hemisphere:
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>

_'''''''_^South/Eastern Hemisphere:
Austronesian Outpost of Anaphoria <http://anaphoriasouth.blogspot.com/>

',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',

a momentary antenna as i turn to water
this evaporates - an island once again

On 11/11/10 6:29 AM, Chris Vaisvil wrote:
> ok, I'm emailing the first 8 measures.
>
> Now remember the file I will be sending is in 12 equal - I loaded Gene's
> tuning into pianoteq which handled all of the retuning for me.
> The scala file I used is at www.chrisvaisvil.com
>
>
> Chris
>
> On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Marcel de Velde<m.develde@...>wrote:
>
>>
>>> Thanks for the listen and comment Marcel!
>>>
>>> I'd be happy to email you the midi file if you'd like to take a shot at
>>> porting it over to straight JI.
>>>
>>>
>> Ah yes I'd love to but I don't have the time :(
>> I have such a big to do list for tuning related stuff it'll be 2 months
>> before I get it all done.
>> I could do the first few chords just so we can hear how it'd sound.
>>
>> -Marcel
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

Oh , i see, you were just playing in 17 on a 12 tone keyboard (?) i was wondering how certain tones appeared at certain times.

/^_,',',',_ //^/Kraig Grady_^_,',',',_
Mesotonal Music from:
_'''''''_ ^North/Western Hemisphere:
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>

_'''''''_^South/Eastern Hemisphere:
Austronesian Outpost of Anaphoria <http://anaphoriasouth.blogspot.com/>

',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',

a momentary antenna as i turn to water
this evaporates - an island once again

On 11/11/10 9:01 AM, chrisvaisvil@... wrote:
>
> Hi Kraig. Its not a retuned 12edo piece. Going from 12 to 17 > notes would necessitate lots of fussing. I totally agree with > youir observation that this tuning offers much more. In the > same vein the fingering for those chords get complicated as well.
>
> I'm hoping my AXiS49 will be useful for tasks as these.
>
> Chris
> *
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@... > <mailto:kraiggrady%40anaphoria.com>>
> Sender: MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:MakeMicroMusic%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 08:51:39
> To: <MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:MakeMicroMusic%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Reply-To: MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:MakeMicroMusic%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [MMM] Semimarvelous Blue Drawf
>
> Enjoyable tuning that while does not sound like just to my ear (
> no one said it was supposed to either) it has its own flavor.
> It sounds like it is a 12 tone piece dropped into this tuning?
> would love to hear more with the tuning used for what it is.
> Or at least those corners where we just got a glimpse. fun
>
>
> /^_,',',',_ //^/Kraig Grady_^_,',',',_
> Mesotonal Music from:
> _'''''''_ ^North/Western Hemisphere:
> North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island > <http://anaphoria.com/>
>
> _'''''''_^South/Eastern Hemisphere:
> Austronesian Outpost of Anaphoria
> <http://anaphoriasouth.blogspot.com/>
>
> ',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',
>
> a momentary antenna as i turn to water
> this evaporates - an island once again
>
> On 11/11/10 1:09 AM, christopherv wrote:
> >
> >
> > Online play and tuning
> >
> > http://chrisvaisvil.com/?p=314
> >
> > download
> >
> > > http://micro.soonlabel.com/Semimarvelous_dwarf/semimarvelous-piano.mp3 >
> >
> > This is a solo piano piece performed on a M-Audio 88es driving
> > pianoteq which was re-tuned to Gene Ward Smith's 17 per octave
> > equal beating dwarf(<17 27 40|). The piece was originally
> > recorded in pianoteq using the standalone mode and then
> > brought into Sonar 8.5 to edit some stray notes, change a
> > chord, and correct some timing issues (some of those still > exist).
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Yes I was. And I do creatively edit my improvisations - its the
fastest way for me to work. Though... less and less edits have been
necessary especially for a 17 based tuning due to familiarity.

Pianoteq - thanks to Carl, is a wonderful tool.

Chris

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...> wrote:
>
> Oh , i see, you were just playing in 17 on a 12 tone keyboard
> (?) i was wondering how certain tones appeared at certain times.
>
>

since 12 is a subset of 17 and 19, i found them "manageable' on a 12 tone keyboard. I have played with some non octave scales in this fashion.

/^_,',',',_ //^/Kraig Grady_^_,',',',_
Mesotonal Music from:
_'''''''_ ^North/Western Hemisphere:
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>

_'''''''_^South/Eastern Hemisphere:
Austronesian Outpost of Anaphoria <http://anaphoriasouth.blogspot.com/>

',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',

a momentary antenna as i turn to water
this evaporates - an island once again

On 11/11/10 9:49 AM, Chris Vaisvil wrote:
>
> Yes I was. And I do creatively edit my improvisations - its the
> fastest way for me to work. Though... less and less edits have > been
> necessary especially for a 17 based tuning due to familiarity.
>
> Pianoteq - thanks to Carl, is a wonderful tool.
>
> Chris
>
> On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Kraig Grady > <kraiggrady@... <mailto:kraiggrady%40anaphoria.com>> > wrote:
> >
> > Oh , i see, you were just playing in 17 on a 12 tone keyboard
> > (?) i was wondering how certain tones appeared at certain times.
> >
> >
>
>